Hey Andrew, I just prefer to ignore bitching in mailing lists as opposed to get sucked into a flaming war and behave like a bitch too.
Cheers! - Regards, Nick > On 10 Apr 2018, at 10:54 PM, Andrew Swartz <[email protected]> wrote: > > > FYI: > > A new (Jan 2018) RFC is now re-adopting port 465 for mail submission: > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8314 > > It discusses the rationale, and it is the first RFC that I've found to > be an interesting read. It advocates "Implicit TLS" on port 465 over > either cleartext OR STARTTLS. > > > > > > On 4/10/2018 1:43 AM, Craig Skinner wrote: >> Hi Nick, >> >> Port 587 is the proper MUA submission port, not 465. >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Mail_Transfer_Protocol >> >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6409 >> >> http://blog.mailgun.com/25-465-587-what-port-should-i-use/ >> >> >> Port 465 is not RFC compliant. >> >> Perhaps Apple Mail expects the RFC port 587 to be operative? >> >> >> Cheers, >> >
