Ray Percival wrote:
To start with http://www.schneier.com/pptp.html and also because I for
one don't trust *any* security related code that I can't get the source
for. I think I'm not alone here by any means.

You're talking about PPTP, I'm talking about IPsec.

Fact of the matter is we can look at the OpenSSH code and see if the
problems that we know about are fixed or not. You can't do that with
closed source. So do you really want to trust your data going over a
public network to a vendor with Microsoft's rep for getting crypto and
security wrong?

You're talking about MS PPTP vs. OpenSSH, I'm talking about MS IPsec VPN vs. third-party VPN hardware (Checkpoint, Intel, Cisco).

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