On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 01:08:04 -0400, Brad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Fri, Jul 22, 2005 at 09:43:29PM -0700, J.C. Roberts wrote: >> On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 21:10:53 -0400, Nick Holland >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >There is just *no* way to explain just how wacked Linux looks to someone >> >who is having to go from OpenBSD to Linux for some stuff at work. Wow. >> > You'd swear it was written by an unorganized mob with no central >> >control or plan at all. Oh, wait... >> > >> >Nick. >> >> ROTFLAMO! -If you think the Server/Desktop linux distros are bad, you >> should see some of the completely wacked "linux" incarnations that >> ship with custom reference boards from various chip manufacturers. > >Ya but the intention is for embedded use. The end-user typically has no >interaction with such distributions. I'm not saying that's a good excuse >to make the developers lives harder though.
I *think* we agree but I'm still a bit unsure of your point? Sure, the ASIC vendors *expect* us to know the exact incantation to mumble over our voodoo chicken sacrifice in order to get their stuff working but I think this mess is not very different than the whole "optimization" nonsense seen so often here on the OpenBSD lists. Whether it's a new atmel ARM SoC chip or some custom built video or crypto ASIC, the people in the best position to provide sane defaults are the folks that built the darn thing. In the world of linux where there are no sane defaults and everyone is *expected* to turn a few zillion hidden knobs, a whole lot of time/money gets wasted, again and again and ... JCR -- A: Because idiots do not know how to configure their email programs. Q: How does top-posting happen? A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
