Dear Sophie
I think you have misunderstood the main point of OpenBSD. OpenBSD isn't
developed for you! The developers develope for themselves!
If you need anything - write the stuff yourself, if you can't then just
ask nicely, otherwise buy hardware that is supported or run something
that works on your hardware - it's your choise!
Maybe no one wants to help with that particular driver, maybe nobody has
the time, maybe nobody think that particular driver is important - so
what?! With all due respect, OpenBSD isn't about you!
> I've been very patient waiting for support for
> over a year now and the more time that passed, the less i could see my
> chances of being able to use it.
You have been very patient.. so what? The OpenBSD team of developers
doesn't owe you anything. They have developed the OS for themselves and
you have bought a CD with a copy of the system over the last couple of
years..
> If you count all of the OpenBSD CD releases that I've already bought
> in the past, I've already paid for it
Shame on you Sophie!! You haven't paid for anything! If you truly where
to pay the price the system is worth, you would find yourself paying
thousands of dollars. The price of the CD hardly covers the work it is
to buy an empty CD, manufacture the CD and ship the CD.
Many of us experience the same as you! I too have experienced hardware
that isn't supported on OpenBSD, but OpenBSD's goal isn't to support
every piece of hardware that exists. I could imagine that one of the
most borring tasks would be to write drivers for hardware, especially
hardware one doesn't even use.
>>>>>>I don't care about anything else other than the USB ports.
>>>>>>REALLY: This is making life unbearable.
>>>>>>I can't use a USB mouse and I have no serial ports.
>>>>>>I have no mouse (the touchpad doesn't work properly).
>>>>>>I can't use any USB devices at all (but the mouse is all
>>>>>>that matters to me). I'm desperate. I LOVE OpenBSD
If it is that much of a problem get another computer!! Do something
constructive to solve your problem instead! And if you can't you
proberly just have to live with this anyway!
You have apologized and you are desperate, but really - I think you
kindda blew it.
Best regards,
Rico
Sophie L wrote:
Hi Theo,
Straight up, I'm very sorry. It was not my intention to be rude and I'm
not a rude person. All I am is desperate to be able to use OpenBSD
again. The fact is I have been a supporter and advocate for OpenBSD for
many years and I admire you for what you've done. I just want to be able
to use OpenBSD again. I've been very patient waiting for support for
over a year now and the more time that passed, the less i could see my
chances of being able to use it.
I'm wheelchair strickened due to a car accident as a child and OpenBSD
was a really great way to pass the time (it's more than that though - I
love it).
Please accept my appology and help me. As I said, I'm not a rude lady
and I'm sorry I may have come accross like that.
Cheers,
SophieL
On Mon, 2005-10-17 at 23:30 -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote:
If you don't know why your mail is rude, you better read it a few
times through.
Totally sick of doing stuff for people who are rude to us.
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Subject: Re: "ATI SB200 USB" ports on Toshiba Satellite
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Hi Jonathan,
(please read my message in full and see my desperation - All I want
is
my usb port working - I've got no mouse)
You may not have got my last email. My question was:
If ATI don't release information about their hardware designs, then
how
did the OpenBSD developers get the info needed to write the driver
for
my dreadfully incompatible ATI IXP soundcard in this system (sound
works
under 3.8 snapshots)?
Also, USB works under NetBSD 2.0/Linux (FC3-4, SuSe - I've tried
it).
How did they get it working?
How come OpenBSD developers can't?
It's all I want. I'd even be prepared to pay for it (If you count
all of
the OpenBSD CD releases that I've already bought in the past, I've
already paid for it)
Please, please help me.
Regards,
Sophie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sophie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jonathan Gray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <misc@openbsd.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: "ATI SB200 USB" ports on Toshiba Satellite
Thanks for the response Jonathan,
Not questioning you. Just asking for enlightenment!
If ATI don't release information about their hardware
designs, then how did the OpenBSD developers
get the info needed to write the driver for my dreadfully
incompatible
ATI IXP soundcard in this system (sound works under 3.8
snapshots)?
Regards,
Soph
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonathan Gray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Sophie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Chris Kuethe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <misc@openbsd.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 8:57 PM
Subject: Re: "ATI SB200 USB" ports on Toshiba Satellite
On Sat, Oct 08, 2005 at 05:38:10PM +1000, Sophie wrote:
Hi Chris and thanks for the reply.
I know that if it's not loudly announced here there's
a good chance it won't be looked at but my soundcard
was in the same boat as the USB (It's an ATI
IXP200 - also an uncommon beast - now works under
3.8 using the auixp driver). I never saw anything
mentioned about my difficult soundcard in misc or
anywhere else for that matter and yet 3.8 supports
it (there are still Linux distros out there that don't).
I don't care about anything else other than the USB ports.
REALLY: This is making life unbearable.
I can't use a USB mouse and I have no serial ports.
I have no mouse (the touchpad doesn't work properly).
I can't use any USB devices at all (but the mouse is all
that matters to me). I'm desperate. I LOVE OpenBSD
and have been a follower for many years now but this is
making the OpenBSD experience extremely extremely painful
and almost impossible to use whether in X or console.
I realize they can only do what they can do and if it's
unfixable, then I won't know what to do then, but for
the last year and a half, I've waited to see if the new release
will fix it and I don't know how many CD's I've wasted
trying the 3.8 snapshots ever time they're updated, to
no avail.
Please help me.
SophieL
OpenBSD 3.8-current (GENERIC) #191: Thu Oct 13 14:58:02 MDT 2005
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: Mobile
Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.06GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 3.07
GHz
cpu0:
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUS
H,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,EST,TM2,CNXT-ID
cpu0:
Enhanced SpeedStep 2300 MHz (1356 mV): unknown EST cpu, no changes
possible
real mem = 200843264 (196136K)
avail mem = 176422912 (172288K)
using 2477
buffers containing 10145792 bytes (9908K) of memory
mainbus0 (root)
bios0 at
mainbus0: AT/286+(1a) BIOS, date 02/16/04, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xe99b0
apm0 at
bios0: Power Management spec V1.1
apm0: battery life expectancy 100%
apm0: AC
on, battery charge unknown, estimated 4:18 hours
apm0: flags 30102 dobusy 0
doidle 1
pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xe7000/0x680
pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing
Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfe840/176 (9 entries)
pcibios0: no compatible PCI ICU found:
ICU vendor 0x1002 product 0x4353
pcibios0: Warning, unable to fix up PCI
interrupt routing
pcibios0: PCI bus #3 is the last bus
bios0: ROM list:
0xc0000/0xf000 0xe0000/0x2000! 0xe6000/0x1000! 0xeb000/0x5000!
ipmi at
mainbus0 not configured
cpu0 at mainbus0
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration
mode 1 (no bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "ATI RS300 Host" rev 0x02
ppb0
at pci0 dev 1 function 0 "ATI Radeon IGP 9100 AGP" rev 0x00
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
vga1 at pci1 dev 5 function 0 "ATI Radeon Mobility IGP 9100" rev
0x00
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen
1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
ohci0 at pci0 dev 19 function 0 "ATI SB200
USB" rev 0x01pci_intr_map: no mapping for pin A
: couldn't map interrupt
ohci1
at pci0 dev 19 function 1 "ATI SB200 USB" rev 0x01pci_intr_map: no
mapping for
pin A
: couldn't map interrupt
ehci0 at pci0 dev 19 function 2 "ATI SB200
USB2" rev 0x01pci_intr_map: no mapping for pin A
: couldn't map interrupt
"ATI
SB200 SMBus" rev 0x1a at pci0 dev 20 function 0 not configured
pciide0 at pci0
dev 20 function 1 "ATI IXP200 IDE" rev 0x00: DMA, channel 0
configured to
compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility
wd0 at pciide0 channel 0
drive 0: <HTS424030M9AT00>
wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 28615MB, 58605120
sectors
wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2, Ultra-DMA mode 5
atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0
scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
cd0
at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: <MATSHITA, UJDA760 DVD/CDRW, 1.50> SCSI0
5/cdrom
removable
cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2, Ultra-DMA mode 2
pcib0 at pci0 dev 20 function 3 "ATI SB200 PCI-ISA" rev 0x00
ppb1 at pci0 dev
20 function 4 "ATI SB200 PCI-PCI" rev 0x00
pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
cbb0 at pci2 dev
6 function 0 vendor "ENE", unknown product 0x1411 rev
0x00pci_intr_map: no
mapping for pin A
: couldn't map interrupt
vendor "ENE", unknown product
0x0530 (class memory subclass flash, rev 0x00) at pci2 dev 6
function 1 not
configured
vendor "ENE", unknown product 0x0550 (class system unknown subclass
0x05, rev 0x00) at pci2 dev 6 function 2 not configured
rl0 at pci2 dev 7
function 0 "Realtek 8139" rev 0x10: irq 11 address 00:a0:d1:b7:0e:f0
rlphy0 at
rl0 phy 0: RTL internal phy
"Texas Instruments TSB43AB21 FireWire" rev 0x00 at
pci2 dev 10 function 0 not configured
auixp0 at pci0 dev 20 function 5 "ATI
IXP200 AC97" rev 0x01: irq 10
auixp0: soft resetting aclink
auixp0: not up;
resetting aclink hardware
auixp0: not up; resetting aclink hardware
auixp0:
aclink hardware reset successful
vendor "ATI", unknown product 0x434d (class
communications subclass modem, rev 0x01) at pci0 dev 20 function 6
not
configured
isa0 at pcib0
isadma0 at isa0
pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5
pckbd0 at
pckbc0 (kbd slot)
pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot
wskbd0 at pckbd0: console
keyboard, using wsdisplay0
pms0 at pckbc0 (aux slot)
pckbc0: using irq 12 for
aux slot
wsmouse0 at pms0 mux 0
pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61
midi0 at pcppi0: <PC
speaker>
spkr0 at pcppi0
sysbeep0 at pcppi0
lpt0 at isa0 port 0x378/4 irq 7
npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: using exception 16
pccom2 at isa0 port 0x3e8/8 irq
5: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
pcic0 at isa0 port 0x3e0/2 iomem 0xd0000/65536
pcic0
controller 0: <Intel 82365SL rev 2> has socket A only
pcmcia0 at pcic0
controller 0 socket 0
pcic0: irq 3, polling enabled
biomask e355 netmask eb55
ttymask fbdf
pctr: user-level cycle counter enabled
dkcsum: wd0 matches BIOS
drive 0x80
root on wd0a
rootdev=0x0 rrootdev=0x300 rawdev=0x302
ac97: codec id
0x414c4752 (Avance Logic ALC250A?)
ac97: codec features headphone, 20 bit DAC,
18 bit ADC, No 3D Stereo
audio0 at auixp0
.
