On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 7:20 PM, Scott McEachern <sc...@blackstaff.ca> wrote:
> On 12/01/11 02:28, John Tate wrote: > >> I think I've found a bug in the OpenBSD crowd. They bug the hell out of me >> and my little mistakes. >> >> I am not talking about people who actually have a solution, but I can't >> seem to ask anything on this list without parrots coming along picking on >> me. I think some people just hang out here because it's the most anal >> bunch >> of hackers ever, in recorded history. What are your experiences? >> > I'm 24 years old. I was a Linux hacker since I was 13. I am a bit of a guru and do my own Kerberos and such on an all BSD/Linux network. OpenBSD and Debian Linux. I love OpenBSD, I'm a bit weird because I use bash. I can put up with being made fun of. At 13 I didn't just start learning Linux I started learning C++ as well. I failed to apprehend it properly at that age, but at an older age I relearned it well. I am the guru sort of guy, I know a hell of a lot but I'm still connecting it and in that sense still learning. > >> Is it true that occasionally we attract people who either love bullying or >> are just lazy and pretending to be one of the clever? >> > Well I get messages that are worthless and seem to be insults. > >> It just figures some of these people sit on the list, and email you poorly >> researched crap with no answers contain. >> >> If you hate a question, it truly doesn't belong, bug me. >> >> But if you just can't answer a question, ignore it. >> >> John Tate. >> >> Note: Yes, it's not my list. >> >> > John, if you don't mind, I'll give you some advice: Do your homework > before posting to the list. Your basic instinct is to click "Send" instead > of thinking first. I've lost count of how many of your posts were > retracted by yourself, with a big "oops, my bad" or were replied to with > RTFM-type responses. I got a kick out of one retraction where you said > something like "Sorry, I was drunk." > > You're obviously new here. Sure, it's a tough crowd at times, but that > only happens when people don't bother reading the FAQ, or the man pages, or > trying things out for themselves. A lot of people have asked "stupid" > questions or said something "dumb" -- myself included -- and got painful > responses. I've had my share of facepalm experiences and had my ass handed > to me plenty of times, but I deserved it. > > But you know what? I try to not make a regular occasion of it. It seems > you do. > > I help a lot of people off-list, and I know for a fact many others do the > same. I've found through years of experience there are two kinds of people > on this list: those that need a little help and pointed in the right > direction, and those that need their hands held for every step. Guess > which category I put you in? And that's exactly why I've helped you a > grand total of zero times. > > Now you have the gall to come on this list and insult the people that are > trying to help you. I don't think there's anyone on this list that sits > idly, waiting for an opportunity to "pick on" or "bully" someone. Get a > grip, get some thicker skin, and most of all, RTFM first. > > I guarantee that if you take my advice, you'll find this list to be a > very, very valuable resource. Remember, there is a difference between > *reading* and *comprehension*. Work a little harder on the latter and I > think you'll find you won't be "picked on". > > Stop playing the victim. You're not the first and it's old. > > -- > Scott McEachern > > https://www.blackstaff.ca > > -- www.johntate.org
