On Tue, 29 May 2012 17:35:40 -0600
Theo de Raadt wrote:

> to realize I was talking to "The Right People" (even if they kept
> saying they are not).  For one of them, check out how the revolving
> door works:
> 
>     Fred Baker <[email protected]>
> and
>     en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Baker_(IETF_chair)
> 
> That is what we are up against.  I also did talk a lot to Robert
> Barr.  None of it was going anywhere.
> 
> So I was there, fighting that patent battle -- and we tried to do it
> by going after the *very first network patent* recognized by people who
> lied about being about standards.

I knew about the protocol refusal. I had no idea Ciscos fell over on
deployment however. That's hilarious, they should pay the OpenBSD devs
for fixing their firewalls.

Would no work get done if members of supposedly independent bodies had
to have independent employees. It reminds me a little of Apple having a
member on the html5 standards team that vetoed Googles member (the other
apparently) as Apple wanted mp4 rather than having ogg as the
specified standard. 

p.s. All the phones in use on the web and their accel
chips would have been replaced by now anyway.

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