Hmmm...my upgrade went flawlessly except httpd started seg faulting on startup. I pinned it to php4 and tried the packages for versions 4.4.1 and 4.4.1p0 to no avail. php5 5.0.4p0 works... so, is the problem a php4 problem or with the php4 packages themselves? I use the recommended php.ini for both versions (with minor changes). -- Allie Daneman Allnix,LLC. http://www.allnix.net