Marc,

On 15 September 2013 21:34, Marc Espie <es...@nerim.net> wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 08:12:53PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 15 September 2013 11:48, Jérémie Courrèges-Anglas <j...@wxcvbn.org> wrote:
>> > James Griffin <j...@kontrol.kode5.net> writes:
>> >
>> >> * Thomas Adam <tho...@xteddy.org> [2013-09-12 10:17:56 +0100]:
>> >>
>> >>> On 12 September 2013 06:10, Carson Chittom <car...@wistly.net> wrote:
>> >>> > Zoran Kolic <zko...@sbb.rs> writes:
>> >>> >
>> >>> >> In fact, fvwm is in base part.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > A while ago, there was a message to misc from the fvwm developer about
>> >>> > relicensing fvwm to allow a more recent version into base.  I wonder if
>> >>> > there is any status update?
>> >>>
>> >>> That is I.  Unfortunately, FVWM cannot be relicensed.
>> >>>
>> >>> -- Thomas Adam
>> >>
>> >> If it can't be relicensed so an up-to-date version can be included in
>> >> the base distribution then is there much point in it being there at all?
>> >> People can simply use the package/port to install a supported version
>> >> and the base distribution can simply have cwm as its main wm.
>> >
>> > Lots of people use the base fvwm.  Which works fine for them, even if
>> > older.  Also fvwm is easier to work than cwm when you don't know either.
>>
>> I agree.  The fact that there's a newer version of FVWM in ports is
>> fine; FVWM in base, despite being older might be a minor nuisance, but
>> not insurmountable.
>
> One thing we can do is re-do some of the useful code.

Unfortunately, whilst this might work for very simple things, you're
on to something of a lost cause in the grander scheme of things (read:
 you might as well just write your own window manager.)

I'd dearly love to be able to relicence FVWM, but that requires
something I cannot do for a twenty year project.  It's a real shame,
but there's code added there from all sorts of proprietary companies
over the years, and contacting them in nigh impossible.

> I've been playing a bit with the newer one. One thing I really would like
> is for chromium (video) and fvwm to play nice with each other, namely an
> implementation of the stuff that makes it possible to go fullscreen and back.
>
> Point me in the right direction, and I will look at rewriting this under
> a reasonable licence...

This is where it'll go south.  You need EWMH support for this, and you
can't just pick-and-choose the best bits and shoe-horn it in to that
FVWM version at all easily.  The undertaking would be quite big.

-- Thomas Adam

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