[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OpenBSD claims to be done for the benefit of its developers and every indication that I've seen says that they mean exactly what they say.
True and nothing wrong with that.
Concerns of users are secondary at best.
The developers will help you if you have something good to offer to them, but most users only wine for ever and ever!
What the developers have is their own operating system, where everything is under their control and done according to their priorities.
And so it should be! They write it don't they?
They are the only ones on the planet who have such.
And is the only one on the planet with such a track records as well! (:>
They will not give up that control to any outsiders. Can't say I blame 'em.
Nor would I, as if they do that, the project would simply go dead and loose all of it's winning aspect now! And that bring the discussion in the full cycle now and close it as well. Users try to offer stuff as they say they have to, or know better, ( what ever really) then complain it's not taken seriously, ( what ever again), then they complain they don't have the docs they needs ( what ever again!), so you take them to their own words and say, here do it yourselves if you are so incline to do so and shut up ( what ever again) and what happened, well very few will offer some decent stuff and then nothing! So, that proof the point just to well! Just talks and not much progress and this tread is just an other example of it I guess. If the users would only do 1% of what they say, it would have so many docs of HOWTOs, that you would never have the time to read them all. ( Note, I haven't said anything about the quality of it here, that's a loaded subject by itself.)
In short give control to the users and it will go dead!
Part of the effect is that OpenBSD has a degree of clout much larger than its user base would suggest. Seriously, if it doesn't run OpenBSD, there's probably something fundamentally wrong with it. (Not really fair, but it is effective;)
I couldn't agree with you more here with minor exceptions as there is always some, but in general OpenBSD does all that I need and it;'s a killer OS!
In order to benefit from OpenBSD, starting with something that used to be OpenBSD, and then doing Windows on top of that, doesn't really work. Further, I suspect that any such tends to give OpenBSD a bad name.
Why would you like to do it anyway?
Setting up an excellent and elaborate security system and then disposing of old computers with hard drives intact, ... Everything you don't know --- matters.
What can I say anyway. Daniel
