I know of several people who ran software mirroring on Windows and they had
major problems with it along the lines that Greg described. I also know some
people that never had problems in a similar setup with OpenBSD. Prodded a
little more, they never had it crash so I guess sometimes being stable can
actually hurt you ... :-)

Johan

On 11/29/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >Robbert Haarman writes:
> >> Greg,
> >>
> >> Again, you raise some interesting issues. I
> >wonder how likely the
> >> catastrophic failures you describe are, versus
> >how likely it is that
> >> things fail in a way where ccd actually helps
> >you. I was hoping someone
> >> else would comment on that, but that doesn't seem
> >to have happened so
> >> far.
> >
> >When you do a "shutdown -r", has the system ever
> >hung on you?  Has
> >your system ever crashed/paniced/suffered a power
> >outage?
> >
> >How does ccd guarantee that the mirrors are in
> >sync?  If it can't do
> >that, then it's worse than using just a single
> >disk, because a fsck
> >is only going to look at one half of the mirror,
> >and inconsistent
> >data on the other half is not going to be touched.
> >
>
> Thankee. Now it makes sense.
> It is rather WORSE than you paint.
> Once there is ANY discrepancy between the disks,
> Murphy's Law is operable and Mother Nature will deal
> you its choice of which sector, when.
> The disk you update is not the disk fsck'd.
>
> The system seeming to run properly is no assurance that
> it can continue to do so. Disk cache and all that.
>
> Looks like the only safe way to come up after a power fail
> is to break the mirror, fsck, and re-mirror.
>
> Hardware might know which if any disk had not been updated.

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