> On 08/03/14 14:42, Stuart Henderson wrote:
> > On 2014-08-03, Scott McEachern <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> I'd really like to upgrade to 5.6/-current, but for my connection to
> >> work, I either have to abandon some features (MLPPP) with kernel-mode
> >> pppoe, or go with something completely new, like npppd.
> > Not currently possible, npppd is server-side only and doesn't do
> > MLPPP (or IPV6CP).
> >
> 
> That's what I was afraid of.
> 
> Theo, is there any chance of putting userland ppp back in?  I'm sure I'm 
> not the only person out there that needs that specific functionality to 
> stay online.

No.

The nppp stack should be improved.

> I know you've said before that the code is horrible, there are too many 
> pppoe options, but there are some people -- like me -- that are stuck 
> without it.  We just don't have a viable option.

That is unfortunate.

> Please consider putting it back in.  People like me still use and need 
> it, and it's no hardship on your end.
> 
> Please?

No.

This is 2014.  Buy a device which does plain pppoe (trivial), or
convince the maintainers of the other ppp code bases in the tree to
support the missing parts.  I recognize this second part is a
difficulty.

There is a certain point in time at which "general purpose operating
system" means we draw the line at insane stuff which is complete
unmaintained and not neccessary.


Finally, you did throw in a line about the code being horrible.
You misunderstand.  It isn't that it is horrible -- IT IS FULL OF
HOLES.

It would be deeply irresponsible to put it back into the tree.  It is
deeply irresponsible that it stayed in the tree as long as it did.

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