Am 11/22/14 um 18:46 schrieb trondd:

Hi Tim,

really appreciate that you haven't given up on me - thanks for replying.

>> This error does not show up with only one regular http-site, but (at
>> least with Firefox) happens with 7+ tabs opened.
>>
> 
> What sites?  Always the same sites?  Different sites?  What have you tried?
> How much time goes by before is hangs?  Do you have to be doing anything at
> the time?
> 
With xombrero it is just about with every https-site. If I start
xombrero as given in me original post ("$ xombrero https://google.de";)
the program stops immediately, doesn't even show the google-site.

Firefox varies: If started as given in my original post (like xombrero)
the google-site shows up but if I open a few more tabs (e.g. news sites
like spiegel.de, heise.de/newsticker, golem.de, undeadly.org,
linuxtoday.com,...): BOOOOM - firefox quits. Again: If I try to open
another https-secured site the program stops as well.

> 
>>
>> Both browsers stop responding altogether. I can't even close the window:
>> If started in an xterm (like shown above) I have to kill the app with
>> STRG-C; otherwise via "kill -9".
>>
> 
> Try killing gst-plugin-scanner
> 
OK - I tried, but:
~ $ sudo pkg_delete gst-plugin-scanner
Can't find gst-plugin-scanner
Problem finding gst-plugin-scanner

You see there are two programs of this name:
~ $ locate gst-plugin-scanner
/usr/local/libexec/gstreamer-0.10/gst-plugin-scanner
/usr/local/libexec/gstreamer-1.0/gst-plugin-scanner

So I tried the following: Guessing from the error log as given in the
original post I suspect the "1.0"-version to be troublesome.
$ sudo mv /usr/local/libexec/gstreamer-1.0/gst-plugin-scanner \
        /usr/local/libexec/gstreamer-1.0/_gst-plugin-scanner

With this gst-plugin-scanner should be disabled. I fired xombrero:

~ $ xombrero https://google.de
xombrero:/usr/local/lib/libestdc++.so.16.0: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.57.0 :
WARNING: symbol(_ZN11__gnu_debug17_S_debug_messagesE) size mismatch,
relink your program

(xombrero:3378): GStreamer-WARNING **: External plugin loader failed.
This most likely means that the plugin loader helper binary was not
found or could not be run. You might need to set the GST_PLUGIN_SCANNER
environment variable if your setup is unusual. This should normally not
be required though.


I tried with Firefox as well, opening 13 tabs at once. This time the
prorams stays functional, presenting the selected sites. And yes - all
plugins are enabled. (Just the usual paranoid suspects like noscript,
adblock-plus, ...)

> 
>> ~ $ pkg_info | grep gstreamer
>> gstreamer-0.10.36p6 framework for streaming media
>> gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.36p11 base elements for GStreamer
>> gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.31p12v0 good elements for GStreamer
>> gstreamer-plugins-ugly-0.10.19p4 ugly elements for GStreamer
>> gstreamer1-1.4.4    framework for streaming media
>> gstreamer1-plugins-base-1.4.4 base elements for GStreamer
>> gstreamer1-plugins-good-1.4.4 good elements for GStreamer
>> gstreamer1-plugins-libav-1.4.4 ffmpeg elements for GStreamer
>> qt-gstreamer-1.2.0p0 Qt bindings to GStreamer 1.x
>>
>>
> I don't have -ugly installed and don't have problems.  I'd try getting rid
> of that.
> 
Well - as I have stated: I didn't install any of these
GStreamer-packages deliberately - they came as dependencies.

~ $ sudo pkg_delete gstreamer-plugins-ugly-0.10.19p4
can't delete gstreamer-plugins-ugly-0.10.19p4 without deleting
clementine-1.2.3p2
Delete them as well? [y/N/a] N

See, what I mean?


> You have to start trying different things and narrowing it down.
> 

OK - for the moment I am fine as I can work. BUT - shouldn't this be
investigated more thoroughly? Simply deleting gst-plugin-scanner can't
be the correct OpenBSD-minded solution - right?

How to proceed precisely?

Kind regards,
STEFAN

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