On Mon, 6 Apr 2015 22:11:21 +0900 Joel Rees <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 9:04 PM, Kevin Chadwick <[email protected]> > wrote: > > On Mon, 6 Apr 2015 15:19:57 +0900 > > Joel Rees wrote: > > > >> I'm using XFCE4 okay. It's a bit heavy, but I can use it, with > >> patience. > >> > >> (I need to check my X11 configuration.) > >> > >> But fvwm, the "default" window manager, is no lighter than XFCE4. > > > > > > Do you mean xfwm which is based on fvwm, if so the lightness is > > likely similar but full XFCE is obviously heavier as it takes > > longer to load up, but ofc ourse it does a lot more. > > On my twelve or thirteen year old single-processor 32-bit box running > a Japanese IME and stuff that works with Japanese, fvwm doesn't really > feel any lighter. Typing really lags sometimes when the processor gets > busy. > > Which is what I should have said and didn't. Sorry. > > > I've also had instances where the > > whole of XFCE locks up, which doesn't happen with fvwm. > > I've locked up fvwm twice today, but I'm sure it's because I don't > know what I'm doing yet. > > > Also one > > xfce-terminal seems to be able to take out all the others which > > doesn't happen with xterm and you hit process limits. > > > > I still use fvwm1 rather than fvwm2 but that is mainly because I see > > little need. Pcmanfm has a terminal here and find built in by > > default that Thunar doesn't have but whilst pcmanfm is still > > usable it does core dump sometimes with fvwm1 whilst it doesn't > > seem to with fvwm2, perhaps that is because I only enable some dbus > > services. Whatever the reason that has to be primarily a bug in > > pcmanfm and not the fault of fvwm. I still haven't worked out if > > fvwm2 is as easy to lock down as fvwm1 either and the config > > migration seems to have dropped fvwm1 support now too. > > > > https://opensource.conformal.com/wiki/spectrwm > > > > Is a tiling wm and hacked up by OpenBSD devs. I'd be using that but > > I'm not sure I could make it easy for my users to use it (not it's > > aim) and until I have time to find out then I like to use whatever > > I give my users. Of course that's chicken and egg so it's probably > > time I switched and found out. However simply getting a consistent > > dark theme across apps with differences between current and release > > is challenge enough. > > Yeah, I need to make time to experiment and learn better ways to do > things, too. > I'm *extremely* pleased with Openbox with customized hotkeys, including a hotkey for dmenu. Please note that Openbox is not the slightest bit useful unless and until you make customized keystrokes and make a 6 pixel margin on the left so you can always click the desktop. SteveT Steve Litt Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting http://www.troubleshooters.com/28
