On Sun, Aug 9, 2015, at 01:42 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> > > On Sat, Aug 08, 2015 at 10:59:15PM -0800, pstern wrote:
> > >> hello:
> > >>
> > >> I recently put a couple of Dell optiplex 7010 machiens in operation using
> > >> OpenBSD 5.6 and 5.7. Both machines have a radeon card in them.
> > >>
> > >> vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 "ATI Radeon HD 7470" rev 0x00
> > >>
> > >> I ran into the video going to gray screen during the boot process when it
> > >> tried to switch to high res. I disabled the radeondrm temporarily to get 
> > >> the
> > >> machines to boot.
> > >>
> > >> I found the radeondrm-firmware-20131002p2.tgz at firmware.openbsd.org
> > >>
> > >> Trying to use pkd_add would not work because it kept reporting the 
> > >> archive
> > >> was corrupt. I believe the problem was actually the signature in the 
> > >> archive
> > >> wasn't current and could not be validated against the certificates in
> > >> /etc/ssl or /etc/signify.
> > > Nope. it's that it's signed with the firmware keys... which is why you
> > > install firmwares with fw_update and not pkg_add.
> > >
> > >> I ended up manually loading the firmware in /etc/firmware, which 
> > >> resulted in
> > >> bypassing verifying the archive, but the archive expanded without a 
> > >> problem.
> > >> The machines run fine with the contents of that archive in place.
> > >
> > >> Is there something wrong with that archive?
> > > The fact that it looks like a normal package doesn't mean it's a normal
> > > package. Since you expanded it manually, you can look at the @signer line
> > > in the contents. You'll see the signature name in all its glories.
> > >
> > > The design of signify means it's the *commands* that decide which 
> > > signatures
> > > they trust. There are three classes of keys in openbsd. Trying to verify
> > > a fw-signed archive with a pkg-checking command won't work.
> > >
> > 
> > I saw that pkg_add is discouraged at the bottom of the man page for 
> > fw_update.
> > 
> > Trying local update
> > 
> > # ls -la /etc/firmware/*.tgz
> > -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  1224091 Aug  8 15:08 
> > /etc/firmware/radeondrm-firmware-20131002p0.tgz
> > # fw_update -n -v -p /etc/firmware/radeondrm-firmware-20131002p0.tgz
> > fw_update: Path to firmware: /etc/firmware/radeondrm-firmware-20131002p0.tgz
> > fw_update: Installing firmware:  
> > radeondrm-firmware.file:/etc/firmware/radeondrm-firmware-20131002p0.tgz/ is 
> > empty
> > Can't find radeondrm-firmware
> > 
> > trying directly from firmware.openbsd.org
> > 
> > fw_upate -n -v -p 
> > http://firmware.openbsd.org/firmware/5.7/radeondrm-firmware-20131002p0.tgz
> > 
> > fw_update: Path to firmware: 
> > http://firmware.openbsd.org/firmware/5.6/radeondrm-firmware-20131002p0.tgz
> > fw_update: Installing firmware:  radeondrm-firmware.
> > Error from 
> > http://firmware.openbsd.org/firmware/5.7/radeondrm-firmware-20131002p0.tgz/
> > ftp: Error retrieving file: 404 Not Found
> > http://firmware.openbsd.org/firmware/5.7/radeondrm-firmware-20131002p0.tgz/ 
> > is empty
> > Can't find radeondrm-firmware
> > 
> > What is the correct way to deal with this file?
> 
> Just Wow.  The right way to use it is
> 
>     # fw_update
> 
> That's it, you don't need any specific options, nor do you have to
> give it URLs to files.  It autodiscovers.
> 
> For some firmwares, you need to follow this with a reboot so that the
> kernel can find the actual firmwares early enough in boot.
> 
> You really are inventing your own difficulties.  Sometimes you have to
> step back and go "Wow, I am passing 5 arguments to the program.  Is that
> what the system developers would have intended as normal operation?"
> 
> The answer is NO.
> 

Linux trains people that kind of shit is normal.

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