Hi Bryan,

Thank you for the great message.  I will re-read it in more detail
over the next few days and have a go at getting all the pieces of the
jigsaw put together !

Thanks again.

On 11 December 2016 at 18:12, Bryan Vyhmeister <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 09:45:08AM +0000, Bob Jones wrote:
>> I have a planned network topology that will run on OpenBSD that (at
>> the moment) will constitute of three boxes :
>>
>> 1 x Router (Openbsd running bgpd for connection to the outside world)
>> 2 x Firewalls (running Openbsd)
>>
>> I can't quite figure out the best way to deal with the "external" side
>> of the firewalls ? (Obviously the "internal" side would be CARP).
>
> The missing piece here is OSPF. The paper below is what I used as my
> template to setup my network which is very much like your design. I then
> added the CARP configuration which I will explain below.
>
> http://www.openbsd.org/papers/linuxtag06-network.pdf
>
>> At the moment, since the devices are located in the same rack, I am
>> thinking of running a patch cable directly from each firewall to two
>> ports on the Router (i.e. F1a -> R1a and F2a to R1b).  The reason for
>> this is to avoid going via a switch and adding a point of failure
>> (yes, I know, I only have one "router".... but hopefully that will
>> change in the not too distant future !)
>
> I have an external router running BGP with my provider with four
> ethernet ports. The first interface (em0) is connected to my provider.
> The other ports (em1, em2, and em3) are all part of bridge0 which is
> what my other two routers are connected to. The internal IP address
> (which is .1 of a /29 and the beginning of my /24) of my external router
> exists on vether0 also added to bridge0. I run iBGP and OSPF between the
> three routers as in the paper above. That means the first internal
> router would have .3 on its em0 and the second internal router would
> have .4 on its em1. I am actually changing out to use a switch because
> once in a while the external router stops seeing OSPF from the internal
> routers. I can't be positive it has anything to do with bridge(4)
> because the routers have not been upgraded recently past 5.8 and there
> have been improvements to lots of areas. This week I am upgrading them
> to 6.0-stable and replacing some hardware. I have this same setup in a
> datacenter as well all running 6.0-stable that uses a switch and has
> worked perfectly for several years.
>
>> The problem is I can't quite figure out the OpenBSD software
>> configuration for that concept and how it inter-relate with CARP
>> running on the "internal" side of the firewalls ?  Should I be running
>> OSPF ? iBGP ?  Or something else (switchd ? vether ?)
>
> Like I mentioned above, you want BGP to your provider on the external
> router. On its internal interface use iBGP and OSPF to the other two
> routers. You can use vether(4) and bridge(4) on the external router's
> internal interfaces like I did which seems to work fairly well. On the
> two internal routers, the key point for CARP to work is to use the
> "demote carp" option as documented in ospfd.conf(5) and use the carp
> interface(s) rather than the physical in ospfd.conf on the internal side
> of the internal routers. You also have to have a link between the
> internal routers for pfsync(4) and an OSPF link. Here is a simplified
> snippet from my ospfd.conf on one of the internal routers.
>
> area 0.0.0.0 {
>         demote carp
>         interface em0 { metric 10 }
>         interface em1 { metric 20 }
>         interface carp2 { passive }
> }
>
> In this case, em0 connects to the external router. Interface em1 is a
> cable between the two internal routers which provides both a /30 link
> between them for OSPF and also pfsync for CARP to work correctly. I
> simplified my snippet above because I have some other things working
> that would complicate your setup. In a setup like you want, carp2 would
> correspond to em2 for example. I am using a /25 for the internal network
> using CARP. So carp2 has the .125 IP address shared bewteen both
> internal routers, em2 on the first internal router has .126, and em2 on
> the second internal router has .127 to allow CARP to work correctly.
>
> Hopefully this helps you get things going. This setup works very well
> for me at multiple sites and can easily be expanded by adding another
> external router to another provider in the future.
>
> Bryan

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