On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 9:17 AM, Solène Rapenne <[email protected]> wrote:

> Je 2017-11-03 05:06, Jacob Leifman skribis:
>
> I was finally able to bring our OpenBSD based Network Management System up
>> to the current OS release (it was a couple of years out of date) but this
>> process broke access to a large number of older HP switches on our
>> network.
>> Thorough analysis of the problem and study of the source code lead me to
>> believe that the culprit is commit to usr.bin/ssh/dh.h rev 1.14:
>>
>> increase the minimum modulus that we will send or accept in
>> diffie-hellman-group-exchange to 2048 bits;
>>
>> Within the file it further explains that this is mitigation for DH
>> precomputation attacks. I understand and appreciate strengthening server
>> code. But this breaks the use of SSH client leaving little recourse other
>> than perhaps telnet with NO encryption instead of somewhat weak
>> encryption,
>> as the "server" is outside of our control. (I already checked that we have
>> the latest firmware, less than one year old.)
>>
>> Curiously, diffie-hellman-group1-sha1, which is the only one supported by
>> the switches, is an accepted KexAlgorithm value in OpenSSH 7.6 (OBSD 6.2);
>> I was hoping that I could use it to explicitly request smaller DH but
>> ultimately it still dies with "Invalid key length" error.
>>
>> Is this an oversight or is there a particular logic to intentionally
>> breaking compatibility with a not-insignificant base of installed
>> equipment?
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Jacob Leifman
>> Educational Technology
>>
>> Weymouth Public Schools
>>
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm not sure if it's what you ask but I had a problem with old ssh clients
> not able to connect to a recent ssh server after a system upgrade. I had to
> add this to my sshd config (on the server) to allow them to connect :
>
>
> KexAlgorithms +diffie-hellman-group1-sha1
> Ciphers +aes128-cbc
>
> Regards
>

Hi,

Not quite, I have the converse problem -- using the modern ssh client and
being unable to connect to an older embedded ssh server. But your solution
indicates that in the ssh server implementation the explicit compatibility
mode actually works. I find the incongruity between server and client
approaches to backwards compatibility rather odd, since it is generally
much easier to upgrade or replace a client application (end-user software)
than the server application, especially embedded server as in my case.

-Jacob.

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