On Thu 08 Feb 2018  6:21 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Feb 2018 13:41:20 -0800
> Charlie Eddy <charlie.e...@occipital.com> wrote:
> > hello misc,
> > 
> > I am considering a move to OpenBSD, since I subscribed to this
> > mailing list some time ago (~few months). I want to take advantage of
> > security.
> > 
> > However, a programmer who I know personally and respect considers
> > OpenBSD to be old-school, in a negative sense. He recommends Arch
> > Linux as superior, because more new. Does the difference boil down to
> > one's definition of free software, and then compliance with that
> > definition?
> > 
> > I have read up on this a lot, and this is a serious question. I have
> > heard that it is unimportant what *nix you're on after a few years of
> > using one or the other, in terms of functionality. I am interested in
> > embedded devices. I think that bends the needle towards Arch, but the
> > security of OpenBSD is also attractive. What considerations should I
> > take into account?
> If installability on embedded devices is a requirement, I think that
> would rule out a whole bunch of BSDs and Linux distros.
> About your friend: There's a logical fallacy called "Appeal to Novelty"
> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_novelty) If your experience is
> anything like mine, household appliances installed in the 1980's tended
> to last almost 20 years, whereas appliances in the 2010's tend to last
> about six. Sometimes newer is better, sometimes it's not. Arch Linux
> uses the relatively new systemd init system/OS controller/Desktop aid.
> It's such a mess that nobody's ever been able to draw its block diagram,
> complete with boxes and arrows. 
> My main OS right now is Void Linux, but when I used OpenBSD I was
> impressed with how everything worked exactly the same, every single
> time. This is subjective,  but I view OpenBSD as the most solid OS I've
> ever run.

I agree, I continue to be impressed by openBSD. I run snapshots and update
nearly daily. I try to find bugs and issues, but they're few and far between.

To the OP, does your friend update to the latest linux code daily? That's
possible, but doubtful. Of course you may not need to update snapshots daily,
but that just shows how solid the OS is. The openBSD group has hackathons to
improve it, fix things, and more importantly - take code out.

Simply provide this page to your friend:

> SteveT
> Steve Litt
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> http://www.troubleshooters.com/twb

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