apparently the F-35 project sources motherboards for key instrumentation from China.
This is a new economic cold war. Do what you feel best but a big part of this is politics. Maybe the list should qualify when a mail thread is verging on personal politics and out of strictly technical subject the list is supposed to handle. regards > On 16 Jun 2019, at 21:28, Luke A. Call <luke...@onemodel.org> wrote: > > And I think I read that Supermicro is moving production > out of China because of the perceptions of risk (and/or actual > risks) of sensitive electronics manufacturing there. > > Forgive/ignore if this question is excessive here, but I > wonder if anyone has knowledge or educated perspective to share > on this: I have avoided Chinese products (like Lenovo) due to > government history/means/motive/opportunity to put in backdoors > or things with which I might be less comfortable than the > backdoors unfortunately inserted by someone else. Just like I've > been favoring AMD due to Intel's track record and evident attitude.) > Yes, the US government has been reported to waylay hardware > during shipping, etc., and Bruce Schneier and/or others > have said the problem of vetting hardware is beyond > the ability of individuals or most businesses, given the > extreme economic and technical complexity involved. (And > I realize that suspicion can be carried too far, and cost/benefit > estimates can sometimes even favor less caution, but one has to > choose whom to work with, given tradeoffs and an imperfect world. > I know Theo has said in efffect that hardware security is not > a problem OBSD can address, and if that is the final answer, OK.) > > But I wonder sometimes if anyone knows of a laptop &/or desktop > vendor where the odds seem most favorable, maybe why you > think so, and where they are likely to work with OBSD. (System76, > librem, dell, small/local manufacturers)? (My audio, video, and > battery needs are minimal, but *quiet* effective thermal management, & > 16GB+ RAM are important, and reliability & compilation speed.) > AMD CPUs preferred, as going exotic sounds like more $ and > harder to get spare parts. And I probably don't have the ability > now or later to become expert at choosing many individual > components. Thanks in advance. > -- > Luke Call > Things I want to say to many (a lightly-loading site): > http://lukecall.net (updated 2019-06-09) > > > On 06-15 15:11, Stuart Henderson wrote: >> On 2019-06-15, ms <m...@it-infrastrukturen.org> wrote: >>> There were some serious security issues with hardware and software from >>> Supermicro (espionage chips, firmware) >> >> Assuming you mean the allegations in that Bloomberg piece, there was no >> evidence found supporting them. >> >> https://hackaday.com/2019/05/14/what-happened-with-supermicro/ etc >> >> There are the usual problems with BMC security, cpu bugs, etc, but those >> are by no means unique to supermicro. >> >> >
