Raymond, David <david.raym...@nmt.edu> wrote: > That said, I am a bit nervous about OpenBSD's lags in > keeping up with browser security fixes.
It isn't that simple. They don't ship security fixes standalone. Instead, they ship a mix of new changes *and* fixes. Lots of new unrelated changes, and only a few security fixes. These fixes cannot be plausibly seperated out, as doing such a seperate procedure would increase the development workload, and increase the update lag. So instead this software is accepted from mainstream on the assumption of their best effort, and then the following happens: The large changesets requires evaluation and verification, to ensure it still works with the pledge/unveil changes. The pledge/unveil changes introduce a tighter sandbox than other operating systems have. Quite often, upstream performs operations in the wrong order, and robert finds this out during test. This friction slows the development a little. But I believe you are completely wrong about how long this lag is. You are being inaccurate because you don't know, and making it sound like the lagg is many months. 81.0.4044.92 came out 5 days ago, and here you can see it enter the ports tree 2 days ago. 1 hour ago it was replaced with a newer update. date: 2020/04/10 18:51:30; author: robert update to 81.0.4044.92; date: 2020/04/03 13:44:40; author: robert update to 80.0.3987.163 date: 2020/04/01 12:32:05; author: robert update to chromium-80.0.3987.162; date: 2020/03/21 14:08:01; author: robert update to 80.0.3987.149 and apply the following changes: date: 2020/03/11 23:57:03; author: espie date: 2020/03/04 15:44:17; author: robert update to 80.0.3987.132 and fix the component flavor while here date: 2020/02/22 12:33:20; author: robert update to 80.0.3987.116; date: 2020/01/17 20:43:38; author: robert update to 79.0.3945.130 date: 2020/01/08 14:43:32; author: robert update to 79.0.3945.117 date: 2019/12/18 09:01:35; author: robert update to 79.0.3945.88 date: 2019/12/15 12:03:46; author: robert update to 79.0.3945.79 date: 2019/11/20 18:26:30; author: robert update to 78.0.3904.106 date: 2019/11/07 10:47:41; author: robert update to 78.0.3904.97 date: 2019/11/05 22:30:26; author: robert update to 78.0.3904.87 date: 2019/10/22 18:35:43; author: robert update to 77.0.3865.120 and make sure to use HW_NCPUONLINE instead of HW_NCPU You can pick through that list and compare the dates to the pledge/unveil adaptations commited into the tree. It appears to move very rapidly, more rapidly than the average port. The changes don't neccessarily make it into -stable and -stable packages, but *we never promised that*, and this specific pledge/unveil-using application is now using API that didn't exist in 6.6. > (I'm not criticizing -- I understand that ... Yes, you are are criticizing. And with inaccurate statements. And you are wrong about there being a lagg. By telling the world the chromium openbsd effort is "slow", you are being an innaccurate downer.
