July 9, 2025 at 5:56 PM, "Mike Larkin" <mlar...@nested.page 
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> wrote:


> 
> On Wed, Jul 09, 2025 at 02:42:44PM +0000, Jon Tabor wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Good day everyone,
> > 
> >  I recently ran through the process of updating my ancient vmm host server 
> > from 7.2 all the way up to 7.7 (stepping through each version using 
> > sysupgrade).  Everything went extremely well, with the exception of one 
> > issue:  previously when I started a vmm guest, the tap interface (tap0, 
> > tap1, etc) automatically added itself to the bridge (bridge0) so the guests 
> > could communicate on the network, but now they no longer do.  I have to 
> > manually add them using
> > 
> >         ifconfig bridge0 add tap0
> > 
> >  every time I start/restart a vmm guest.
> > 
> >  Any thoughts on why that would be?  Here's my vm.conf; not sure what else 
> > would be in play here, so let me know if there are other configuration 
> > files I should show.
> > 
> >  vm.conf:
> > 
> >  socket owner taborj:taborj
> > 
> >  switch "bridge" {
> >    interface bridge0
> >  }
> > 
> >  vm "athos" {
> >    memory 10G
> >    enable
> >    disk /mnt/sd1a/vmware/athos.qcow2
> >    disk /mnt/sd1a/vmware/athos_usr.qcow2
> >    interface { switch "bridge" }
> >  }
> > 
> >  vm "porthos" {
> >    memory 512M
> >    enable
> >    disk /mnt/sd1a/vmware/porthos.qcow2
> >    disk /mnt/sd1a/vmware/porthos2.qcow2
> >    interface { switch "bridge" }
> >  }
> > 
> >  Thanks,
> >  ------------------
> >  Jon Tabor
> >  tab...@obsolete.site mailto:tab...@obsolete.site
> > 
> I had similar weird problems with bridge(4) long ago and switched to veb(4) at
> the suggestion of some of the other devs. I just toss all the tapN into the
> veb at boot (/etc/hostname.veb0), that way I don't need to worry about them
> not getting added later.
> 
> -ml
> 

That's a good suggestion, I'll look into it.  I've seen a few other places 
mention using veb instead of bridge, but I didn't really dive into why.

Thanks,
------------------
 Jon Tabor
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