Quoth Polarian <[email protected]>:
> Hey,
> 
> > sure, i run a private ircd on ngircd and config is very simple but
> > then you have to setup some services, at the very least nickserv if
> > you can't trust users to not nick into eachother, and setting up
> > atheme is boring especially because there's no package.  i'm thankful
> > it exists as an ircd-independent solution (anope is in c++.  ew) but
> > ya it's too big next to ngircd in source code and config.
> 
> It is still far easier to self host than a lot of other things. Ever
> tried setting up a Matrix server for example?
> 

ya matrix sucks. but prosody setup is easier than watever atheme needs :b

> But sure, making it easier to self host is always a plus, unfortunately
> there is not enough support for it anymore. Tools are written to solve
> peoples problems, if people are not having issues (because they picked
> an alternative solution) no tools are written, and thus no easier way to
> set it up is produced.
> 

atheme is still supported and developed.

> If more people self hosted, more people would run into annoyances like
> this, and would find solutions to it, which would make it easier for
> others to get into it.
> 

yup that's why i still have that ircd.  will setup the atheme thing
someday and write a guide for it i guess.

> I am on a few small networks and none of them have a nickserv, this
> does bring up security concerns (such as impersonation), but for the
> most part people bounce making it more difficult to steal their nick.
> 

ya not everyone uses a bouncer, and for new users it's more concerning
knowing you might get impersonated (especially because new users tend
to not have a bouncer

> Take care,
> -- 
> Polarian
> Jabber/XMPP: [email protected]
> 

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