Sorry, I must have messed up with my openbsd mailing list subscriptions somehow.
I found your answers in the archives.
I decided to reply in case others experience the same issue.

@Stuart Henderson : the VM runs on another network segment.
Yes, I know about rtables/rdomain, but I wanted to keep things simple and separated. Yes, the APU is not fast, but it's fast enough for my needs and doesn't use much electricity, so I'm pretty happy with it :-)

@obsd () muhl ! net
Using the sensor in ntpd.conf seems to fix the issue.
Thanks a lot for your help !



On 06/11/2025 15:42:22, "Arnaud Brand" <[email protected]> wrote:


Yes, of course !

ns1# sysctl kern.timecounter
kern.timecounter.tick=1
kern.timecounter.timestepwarnings=0
kern.timecounter.hardware=pvclock0
kern.timecounter.choice=i8254(0) pvclock0(1500) tsc(-1000)


occam# dmesg
OpenBSD 7.8 (GENERIC.MP) #54: Sun Oct 12 12:58:11 MDT 2025
    [email protected]:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP
real mem = 4259946496 (4062MB)
avail mem = 4104167424 (3914MB)
random: good seed from bootblocks
mpath0 at root
scsibus0 at mpath0: 256 targets
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.7 @ 0xcfe9b020 (7 entries)
bios0: vendor coreboot version "v4.8.0.3" date 20180708
bios0: PC Engines apu4
acpi0 at bios0: ACPI 4.0
acpi0: sleep states S0 S1 S4 S5
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP SSDT TCPA APIC HEST IVRS SSDT SSDT HPET
acpi0: wakeup devices PWRB(S4) PBR4(S4) PBR5(S4) PBR6(S4) PBR7(S4) PBR8(S4) 
UOH1(S3) UOH2(S3) UOH3(S3) UOH4(S3) UOH5(S3) UOH6(S3) XHC0(S4)
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 32 bits
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee00000: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: AMD GX-412TC SOC, 998.30 MHz, 16-30-01, patch 07030105
cpu0: cpuid 1 
edx=178bfbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT>
 
ecx=36d8220b<SSE3,PCLMUL,MWAIT,SSSE3,CX16,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,MOVBE,POPCNT,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C>
cpu0: cpuid 6 eax=4<ARAT> ecx=1<EFFFREQ>
cpu0: cpuid 7.0 ebx=8<BMI1>
cpu0: cpuid d.1 eax=1<XSAVEOPT>
cpu0: cpuid 80000001 edx=2fd3fbff<NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,PAGE1GB,RDTSCP,LONG> 
ecx=1d4037ff<LAHF,CMPLEG,SVM,EAPICSP,AMCR8,ABM,SSE4A,MASSE,3DNOWP,OSVW,IBS,SKINIT,TOPEXT,DBKP,PERFTSC,PCTRL3>
cpu0: cpuid 80000007 edx=33d9<HWPSTATE,ITSC>
cpu0: 32KB 64b/line 8-way D-cache, 32KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 2MB 64b/line 
16-way L2 cache
cpu0: smt 0, core 0, package 0
mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support, 8 var ranges, 88 fixed ranges
cpu0: apic clock running at 99MHz
cpu0: mwait min=64, max=64, IBE
cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
cpu1: AMD GX-412TC SOC, 998.32 MHz, 16-30-01, patch 07030105
cpu1: smt 0, core 1, package 0
cpu2 at mainbus0: apid 2 (application processor)
cpu2: AMD GX-412TC SOC, 998.27 MHz, 16-30-01, patch 07030105
cpu2: smt 0, core 2, package 0
cpu3 at mainbus0: apid 3 (application processor)
cpu3: AMD GX-412TC SOC, 998.31 MHz, 16-30-01, patch 07030105
cpu3: smt 0, core 3, package 0
ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 4 pa 0xfec00000, version 21, 24 pins
ioapic1 at mainbus0: apid 5 pa 0xfec20000, version 21, 32 pins, remapped
acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318180 Hz
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 1 (PBR4)
acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 2 (PBR5)
acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 3 (PBR6)
acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus 4 (PBR7)
acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus -1 (PBR8)
acpibtn0 at acpi0: PWRB(wakeup)
acpipci0 at acpi0 PCI0: 0x00000000 0x00000011 0x00000001
acpicmos0 at acpi0
"BOOT0000" at acpi0 not configured
acpicpu0 at acpi0: C2(0@400 io@0x1771), C1(@1 halt!), PSS
acpicpu1 at acpi0: C2(0@400 io@0x1771), C1(@1 halt!), PSS
acpicpu2 at acpi0: C2(0@400 io@0x1771), C1(@1 halt!), PSS
acpicpu3 at acpi0: C2(0@400 io@0x1771), C1(@1 halt!), PSS
cpu0: 998 MHz: speeds: 1000 800 600 MHz
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "AMD 16h Root Complex" rev 0x00
vendor "AMD", unknown product 0x1567 (class system subclass IOMMU, rev 0x00) at 
pci0 dev 0 function 2 not configured
pchb1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 "AMD 16h Host" rev 0x00
ppb0 at pci0 dev 2 function 1 "AMD 16h PCIE" rev 0x00: msi
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
em0 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 "Intel I211" rev 0x03: msi, address 
00:0d:b9:4c:e4:98
ppb1 at pci0 dev 2 function 2 "AMD 16h PCIE" rev 0x00: msi
pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
em1 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 "Intel I211" rev 0x03: msi, address 
00:0d:b9:4c:e4:99
ppb2 at pci0 dev 2 function 3 "AMD 16h PCIE" rev 0x00: msi
pci3 at ppb2 bus 3
em2 at pci3 dev 0 function 0 "Intel I211" rev 0x03: msi, address 
00:0d:b9:4c:e4:9a
ppb3 at pci0 dev 2 function 4 "AMD 16h PCIE" rev 0x00: msi
pci4 at ppb3 bus 4
em3 at pci4 dev 0 function 0 "Intel I211" rev 0x03: msi, address 
00:0d:b9:4c:e4:9b
ccp0 at pci0 dev 8 function 0 "AMD 16h Crypto" rev 0x00
xhci0 at pci0 dev 16 function 0 "AMD Bolton xHCI" rev 0x11: msix, xHCI 1.0
usb0 at xhci0: USB revision 3.0
uhub0 at usb0 configuration 1 interface 0 "AMD xHCI root hub" rev 3.00/1.00 
addr 1
ahci0 at pci0 dev 17 function 0 "AMD Hudson-2 SATA" rev 0x39: msi, AHCI 1.3
ahci0: port 0: 6.0Gb/s
scsibus1 at ahci0: 32 targets
sd0 at scsibus1 targ 0 lun 0: <ATA, DOGFISH SSD 512G, S102> 
t10.ATA_DOGFISH_SSD_512GB_AA000000000000000619
sd0: 488386MB, 512 bytes/sector, 1000215216 sectors, thin
ehci0 at pci0 dev 19 function 0 "AMD Hudson-2 USB2" rev 0x39: apic 4 int 18
usb1 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub1 at usb1 configuration 1 interface 0 "AMD EHCI root hub" rev 2.00/1.00 
addr 1
piixpm0 at pci0 dev 20 function 0 "AMD Hudson-2 SMBus" rev 0x42: SMI
iic0 at piixpm0
iic1 at piixpm0
pcib0 at pci0 dev 20 function 3 "AMD Hudson-2 LPC" rev 0x11
sdhc0 at pci0 dev 20 function 7 "AMD Bolton SD/MMC" rev 0x01: apic 4 int 16
sdhc0: SDHC 2.00, 50 MHz base clock
sdmmc0 at sdhc0: 4-bit, sd high-speed, mmc high-speed, dma
pchb2 at pci0 dev 24 function 0 "AMD 16h Link Cfg" rev 0x00
pchb3 at pci0 dev 24 function 1 "AMD 16h Address Map" rev 0x00
pchb4 at pci0 dev 24 function 2 "AMD 16h DRAM Cfg" rev 0x00
km0 at pci0 dev 24 function 3 "AMD 16h Misc Cfg" rev 0x00
pchb5 at pci0 dev 24 function 4 "AMD 16h CPU Power" rev 0x00
pchb6 at pci0 dev 24 function 5 "AMD 16h Misc Cfg" rev 0x00
isa0 at pcib0
isadma0 at isa0
com0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
com0: console
com1 at isa0 port 0x2f8/8 irq 3: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
com2 at isa0 port 0x3e8/8 irq 5: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61
spkr0 at pcppi0
lpt0 at isa0 port 0x378/4 irq 7
wbsio0 at isa0 port 0x2e/2: NCT5104D rev 0x53
vmm0 at mainbus0: SVM/RVI
uhub2 at uhub1 port 1 configuration 1 interface 0 "Advanced Micro Devices Hub" 
rev 2.00/0.18 addr 2
vscsi0 at root
scsibus2 at vscsi0: 256 targets
softraid0 at root
scsibus3 at softraid0: 256 targets
root on sd0a (523aa852013c6b76.a) swap on sd0b dump on sd0b


On 06/11/2025 15:17:06, "Dave Voutila" <[email protected]> wrote:

"Arnaud Brand" <[email protected]> writes:

 Good morning list,

 I run OpenBSD (7.8 now) on a APU4C4 board.

 I use vmd to run a small VM to host a DNS server, also running on
 OpenBSD 7.8.

 This setup worked perfectly fine when I first installed it back in
 March 2022 (with OpenBSD 7.0 at the time).
 At some point in time ( don't remember when, sorry ) I noticed clock
 drift in the VM.
 My natural reflex was to setup ntp to keep the clock in sync.
 This seemed to do the trick and I forgot about it.

 About a year or so ago, I noticed that there was still some clock
 drift and that ntp was not able to prevent it.
 I read on the web that the VM was supposed to use pvclock to stay in
 sync with the host and ntp might be counterproductive.
 So I removed ntp on the VM.
 This didn't fix the problem though.

 I recently upgraded both the host and the VM to 7.8 and syspatched them.
 The problem still occurs.

 When it occurs, I can no longer login to the VM via SSH.

 So to dig deeper, I left a console session open on the VM via a tmux
 session.
 This console session stays open and I can issue commands, but the
 clock is frozen.

 I tried to generate a sendbug by using "sendbug -P > file".
 I get an error :
 cp: /var/db/acpi/*: No such file or directory
 b64encode: *: No such file or directory
 The file gets generated though.

 I see nothing new in the dmesg, nothing in /var/log/daemon, nothing in
 /var/log/messages.

 What can I look at ?
 Where can I look ?
 What did I miss ?

 Thanks for your help !

Can you share a dmesg of the host machine and the output of `sysctl
kern.timecounter` in the guest vm?

-dv

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