If it's really a big deal tell them the users are welcome to put their
birthday/state id in their GECOS field. There's no technical way to
force them to do that though; they're machine is in their security
domain.

--Stephen

On Wed, Mar 04, 2026 at 06:20:07PM -0500, Gabe Bauer wrote:
> Do you want to FAFO? 13 days is not a lot of time, and $9.6 million is a
> lot of money is all I'm saying...I would like this to be a no-op, but I am
> certainly no lawyer or legal expert...
> 
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2026 at 5:50 PM Stephen Wiley <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > Since open source OSes don't really distinguish between users and
> > developers: thinking your age to yourself effectively verifies your age
> > with the OS developers.
> >
> > The whole thing seems like a no-op to me.
> >
> > --Stephen
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 04, 2026 at 05:42:26PM -0500, Gabe Bauer wrote:
> > > Hello!
> > >
> > > I assume that somebody has likely already informed Theo about the new
> > > operating system level age verification law that takes effect in
> > California
> > > starting January 1st of next year?
> > >
> > > There are also similar efforts making their way through Colorado and New
> > > York at the moment.
> > >
> > > Most pressingly, a bill with hefty fines for non compliance (about 9.6
> > > million USD), which is enough to completely sink the OpenBSD Foundation
> > and
> > > project, and it takes effect starting thirteen days from now.
> > >
> > > Are there any proposed solutions to this?
> > >
> > > I believe the Brazilian law is more stringent on what is required to
> > comply
> > > with the measure, including, correct me if I am wrong, actual government
> > ID
> > > submission, which is likely not feasible for a default OpenBSD
> > > installation.
> > >
> > > Does the OpenBSD project plan to implement the necessary measures to
> > comply
> > > with these laws, or will they take the route of MidnightBSD, by simply
> > > stipulating in the license that people in these areas are not allowed to
> > > use the software?
> > >
> > > This is VERY important to me as I am sure it is to you, too, as I am sure
> > > all of us would like to see projects like this one to continue to exist.
> > >
> > > I am fairly certain that the California law likely violates the US
> > > constitution, but may go unchallenged.
> > >
> > > I am less certain about the constitutionality of the Brazilian law within
> > > its own borders.
> > >
> > > I hope this project does not suffer an unkind fate. Thank you for your
> > > attention to this matter!!
> >
> >

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