Shane J Pearson wrote:
You find a lot of things "obvious" for a guy who is so presumptuous.
For the record, I respect the intentions of RMS and I highly respect
the intentions and practical thinking of Theo, the OpenBSD project,
the developers and much of the user base. I've been enjoying OpenBSD
since 2.5 and I try to buy OpenBSD items and donate whenever I am
financially able. I tried to donate brand new SCSI disks when Theo
asked for them for the older machines and I purchased a brand new SCSI
card for an Aussie developer and had it sent to him, while I was
mostly unemployed with small funds. My intentions are honourable here.
I messed up by touching something that could be controversial. But
really, I was pro OpenBSD in an OpenBSD list. So shoot me.
If you are referring to me (which I think is a safe assumption based
on your quoting), then you've read way too much into *my* opinion.
I'll be careful in the future to try to avoid accidentally becoming
the catalyst to the few overly sensitive folks here.
Hmm. Let's see. Jack's original post is listed in its entirety below. I
do not see any quotes around the word interesting. If you read it then
you may agree that his meaning is obvious, you may not. However, it was
followed up by three posters, one of which was you responding to further
messages downstream from the original post, where two of the posts make
comments which could be considered disparaging, and which could also
reasonably be seen as leading towards a greater debate over the merits
of the celebrities behind two groups of software licencing thinking.
I've seen that more than once on this list and it goes nowhere, and yes,
I am sensitive about it because I have never seen a single positive
thing come from it.. It is merely a waste of bandwidth and the time of
list readers. So yes, I posted an abrasive message to the list in an
attempt to curb such discussion from taking place again. Around here,
ego bruising tends to get better results than asking nicely. Anyone who
sticks around after having made several posts to misc@ is probably
someone who is genuinely interested in OpenBSD. :) I would never
accuse a poster otherwise unless they were being absolutely crystal
clear that they don't support OpenBSD.
Where your particular misunderstanding seems to come into play is where
you see Jack reference his earlier message, the one posted below, by
quoting the word interesting. He was not implying anything. You either
missed part of the thread or were fishing for an argument. It seems more
likely that you missed part of the thread considering you take sole
ownership of my previous negative comments. I would merely offer that
you re-read the entire thread and consider that you may have not been
the focus of my attention. Jumping into the middle of a thread without
understanding the entire context is a recipe for disaster.
In any case, you have made your intentions clear. Whether I was
referencing you, another poster, all of you, or anyone who was thinking
about joining into the thread and fanning the flames, well, I will leave
that as an exercise for the reader, should any such reader care to waste
any more time on this topic :)
Breeno
PS - I would avoid bringing up donations as a way of indicating that you
are supporting the project. If you dig back in the lists you will find a
post I made to another list, ports@ maybe, asking a question with the
request that replies be sent to my email as well as the list, as I was
not subscribed to that list. I got slammed for not supporting the
project by participating in the list. I replied that I participate in
misc@ instead because I can actually be useful there (sometimes) and
that I donate to the project. I was then accused by several parties of
attempting to "buy" help by bringing up my donations, when I was merely
trying to indicate that I *DO* support the project in the ways available
to me, as you did above. Just a friendly warning from someone who has
already been burnt. It really is amazing just how much drama there are
on these lists considering their intended purpose.
List: openbsd-misc
Subject: Re: OLPC
From: "Jack J. Woehr" <jwoehr () absolute-performance ! com>
Date: 2006-10-10 16:21:45
Message-ID: 1415ECD7-F7E8-4127-8DF3-A04EF94E7F61 () absolute-performance
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On Oct 10, 2006, at 9:38 AM, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> Some of you may have been following the OLPC discussion. Here is
> one place you can read more about it:
>
> http://www.thejemreport.com/mambo/content/view/286/
>
The differences of opinion between Theo and RMS are at least as
interesting
as the differences between either one and OLPC / the chip vendors!
--
Jack J. Woehr
Director of Development
Absolute Performance, Inc.
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