On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 09:22:27PM -0500, Nick Holland wrote:
> Wrap your lines, please...
> 
> Paul Irofti wrote:
> > I have changed one of my workstation's IP with:
> > 
> > $ sudo ifconfig vr0 inet 192.168.1.64
> > 
> > Afterwards some applications (trn, rtorrent, gaim) acknowledged the
> > change and worked on the fly. Others, such as irssi, worked on a
> > random basis (i.e. restarting it would lead to connecting or not to
> > the servers). Firefox, mutt, snownews, lynx didn't even bother.
> > 
> > I did modify the /etc/hostname.vr0 and /etc/hosts files before
> > executing the command.
> > 
> > I couldn't find any solution to this. Is it something I'm missing?
> > I felt pretty dumb having to reboot my machine in order to solve
> > this.
> 
> Why's that?
> 
> Ok, sure, we laugh our selves silly about everything we do in Windows
> requiring a reboot, however, it is easy to forget, sometimes (in fact,
> often!) one really SHOULD reboot a machine.

Don't worry I'm not an uptime maniac, it means nothing to me. I just had
something compiling and didn't want to reboot.

> 
> I've seen this happen way too often, and done it a few times myself:
>   1) Make changes "on the fly"
>   2) Change config files
>   3) ...do nothing...for months...
>   4) reboot the server
>   5) Find out the changes done in step 2 were done improperly...or
> forgotten to be done.
>   6) Spend way too long trying to restore proper operation, as you no
> longer recall the "what" or the "
> 
> If you reconfigure a machine, you need to reboot it to make sure you
> didn't fat-finger something in the process, and make sure it comes up
> on its own, even if you aren't doing that right this moment.
> 

I agree.

> Yeah, that hurts your "uptime".  That's ok, uptime is only significant
> to people who come from a Windows background anyway...virtually every
> other OS (including MSDOS) ran from when you start them to when you
> shut them down (or until an app crashed 'em)...and proper maintenance
> requires shutting them down from time to time.
> 
> The actual answer to your question as asked would require much more
> information about what you did and what actually happened, but I think
> your question is wrong, so this is the answer I'm giving you.   Can
> you reconfig things on the fly?  In theory, yes.  Should you?  No, at
> least if you aren't reading the script files to understand how it all
> works together, and even then, schedule that reboot SOON so you can
> check for fat-fingering...
> 
> Nick.
> 

I just edited those files and ran that command. Nothing more, nothing
less. It was a simple IP change operation.

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