On 2/20/07, Brian Keefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
In the case of a greylisting type of solution, it seems that
identification would be especially devastating since the work-around
is so trivial.  Unless my understanding is very wrong, the whole
effectiveness of the solution depends on the spammers not realizing
the difference between a "normal" MTA and one that greylists.

The reason that greylisting has been effective is because spammers
apparently don't waste resources on maintaining queues and attempting
redelivery later. Why worry about redelivery to 500 temporarily failed
recipients when in the same time and processor cycles you can delivery
to 500,000 more mailboxes?

It (in practice, apparently) matters not to the spammer if they've got
an antispam measure returning a 45x error or a legitimate MTA. If you
were a spammer, and thought that working around 450s from spamd was
worth wasting resources on to reattempt delivery, why wouldn't you
just reattempt delivery on any temporary error under the hopes that it
will succeed? By definition a temporary error will go away at some
point if you reattempt delivery.

For every point that someone has brought up against greylisting (from
since it was originally proposed by Harris in 2003), it continues to
work effectively. So while people adopts this
sky-is-falling-spammers-will-figure-it-out-soon mentality, the numbers
don't lie. Greylisting has been, still is, and will continue to be for
some time at least an effective measure.

DS

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