On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 12:44:50PM +0100, Karel Kulhavy wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 09:34:26PM +0100, Tobias Ulmer wrote:
> > Karel, stop pretending. Everyone who can google your name will find out
> 
> You are implicitly saying that I am pretending. By principle you cannot
> know it because the only mind you have access into is your own. For more
> information, see Patricia Evans: Controlling People
> http://www.amazon.com/Controlling-People-Recognize-Understand-Control/dp/158062569X
> 
> CL<

s/imp/exp/

It's true that i don't have access to your mind, but i can take a well
eductated guess [1][2] that you're not the idiot you're pretending to
be. Instead you're a slacker who likes to be spoonfed while constantly
whining and thereby critisizing other peoples work.
For more information, see Karl Fogel: Producing Open Source Software
http://producingoss.com/en/difficult-people.html

Of course you can continue pretending etc, but you're suggesting here, in
public, that one of the authors of links [2] is a clueless unix newbie and
probably should not be let within 10 feet of any security relevant source
code, let alone simple idiot-proof update instructions. EOT

[1] http://www.google.com/
[2] http://ronja.twibright.com/ http://links.twibright.com/ etc

> > rather quickly that you're not the stupid idiot that needs to spam misc@
> > with boring questions like this.
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 02:00:32PM +0100, Karel Kulhavy wrote:
> > > I want to upgrade from 4.0 to 4.2 and I see I am supposed to perform 
> > > 4.0->4.1
> > > first.  But some things are unclear to me in
> > > http://openbsd.org/faq/upgrade41.html:
> > > 
> > > "Pay special attention to mail/* if you are using something other than the
> > > default Sendmail(8) configuration." - I use Exim so I should do this.  
> > > What
> > > specifically is meant with "pay special attention"? 
> > > 
> > > "Files that must be manually merged, respecting any local changes made to 
> > > them,
> > > if they were modified from the default, otherwise, just copy them over, 
> > > too:"
> > > 
> > > How do I figure out what local changes I did? Is there something like the 
> > > cvs
> > > diff command? I have the system over a year and if I needed to change 
> > > something
> > > in the config files then I just changed it and forgot it.
> > > 
> > > "If you installed any packages on your system, you should upgrade them 
> > > after
> > > completing the upgrade of the base system." - I installed a lot of 
> > > packages on
> > > my system and have no idea what is their complete list. How do I figure 
> > > that
> > > out and how do I discern between packages that were already pre-installed 
> > > by
> > > default and the ones I installed explicitly? Then, how do I upgrade a 
> > > package
> > > XXX?
> > > 
> > > "Check with the application's upgrade guide for details." - is the 
> > > application
> > > upgrade guide something the application author publishes or something 
> > > that the
> > > OpenBSD project publishes? Where is it?
> > > 
> > > Thanks for clarifications,
> > > 
> > > CL<

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