bofh wrote:
On Dec 15, 2007 1:26 AM, Chris Zakelj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
bofh wrote:
On Dec 14, 2007 7:11 PM, Chris Zakelj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
How, pray tell, would purchasing and using this software reduce my
freedom, given that not only does it allow me to make money doing
something I find fun, but also enjoy summer weekends in the sun
watchings kids have fun, too?
Come now, there are serious questions about whether Richards line in
the sand is in the correct place, but this question is silly. He's
not talking about your personal freedom, he's talking about end user's
freedom. GPL is about the end user's freedom. BSD is about the
developer's freedom. The two does not have to meet.
This is why there's such a big deal over OOXML right now.
No, this is exactly on point. As I understand his view, Richard seems
to think that any software licensed under a schema that doesn't meet his
definition of "free" is bad/unethical/whatever, and for an OS to support
said software, even if only by reference, is not only also bad, but also
diminishes my own freedom. I fail to see how using a software package
(remember, *I* would be the end user here), proprietary and
license-restricted though it may be, somehow causes a loss in my
freedom. I am free to (not) use/purchase such software as I see fit,
Again - this discussion is not about your personal freedom. Stop
trying to change the discussion. This is about licensing and what you
can, and cannot do with the source code. The current discussion is
actually pretty important, and muddying up the waters like this is not
useful.
How about you let Richard decide whether or not my question is
important? I don't see your name on the list of OBSD developers, nor
donators, nor as a fellow (or whatever the board is called) of the FSF,
nor anything else which gives you the right to say "Your question is
stupid. Shut up." In case you missed it, this discussion revolves just
as much around the concept of what Richard considers freedom as it does
around licenses and source. This is what I'm on about. My
understanding of Richard's viewpoint is that proprietary software sucks,
and doing anything to support it sucks as well. I want to know why
buying (and thus supporting) a proprietary package causes me to suck as
well, when in my view, I'm out there having fun, and helping others have
fun as well.
