On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 05:07:35PM -0600, Jacob Yocom-Piatt wrote:
> Marc Balmer wrote:
> >Nikns Siankin wrote:
> >
> >>Facts about OpenBSD:
> >>
> >># Stable release cycle.   If you want to run latest bugfree ClamAV or 
> >>FireFox - upgrade to CURRENT!   But don't forget to buy release CD's!!!
> >># Secure By Default.
> >>  OpenBSD uses broken WEP for securing WiFi networks.
> >>  Has no WPA/WPA2 support.
> >># Do not let serious problems sit unsolved.   OpenBSD doesn't need 
> >>MAC because it has their own security flawed systrace.
> >># Use of Cryptography.   OpenBSD uses file-backed encryption (svnd) 
> >>which is very suited
> >>  for Full-disk-encryption. NOT.
> >># Full Disclosure.   OpenBSD at first denies remote exploitable 
> >>flaws.   DoS flaws gets marked as reliability not security issues.
> >># Easy maintainable.   OpenBSD distributes source patches to make 
> >>your farm of
> >>  Pentium2 firewalls updated easly.
> >># Secure Distribution.
> >>  The most secure operation system gets distributed on FTP servers
> >>  as unsigned binaries.
> 
> 
> Facts about Nikns Siankin:
> 
> # Whiner.  He bitches incessantly about stuff and does nothing to fix 
> it.  AFAICT he's even saying that purchasing the CDs is pointless.
> # Jerk.  He ignores that most of the development time that goes into 
> OpenBSD is DONATED by highly-skilled individuals.  You can only add as 
> many bells and whistles as you have resources and time.
> # Misleading.  He claims the system is distributed on FTP servers and 
> elects not to note that code is available via cvs over ssh.
> # Ignorant.  OpenBSD has myriad additional security technologies in it 
> that help to moderate vulnerabilities in poorly coded applications like 
> firefox and clamav.
> # Idiot.  By whining in a totally counterproductive fashion he alienates 
> himself from those who would otherwise, provided his requests were 
> reasonable, help him out.

I'd add some points:
# Possibly frustrated because quite a few diffs never made it into
ports. I guess due to lack of time or interest of the devs
# Helpful with testing ports and get bugs fixed there

Thanks Nikns, for your help so far.

I don't feel great about the situation with -stable ports. But as I only
run 2 OpenBSD boxes at the moment, I usually stick to -current anyway.
And as I don't have time nor machines to contribute/test -stable ports I
think I don't should complain about the -stable situation. What is a bit
unclear to me: are some developers willing to commit security patches
for -stable ports if
# posts of security patches for -stable ports are welcome on @ports?
# someone put them together?
# they get enough testing?
Apart from this, I haven't seen any posts of security patches (not
updates) for -stable on @ports during last months. At least I can't
remember any.
 
Regards,
Markus

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