On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 12:33:47PM +0100, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote:
> Raimo Niskanen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Apparently we (our mail server) got targeted by a zombie network
> > since suddenly there were some 30000 hosts on spamd's whitelist,
> > continously some 600 connections to spamd, and only mails to
> > unknown users coming in. The network connection was flooded,
> > the web server sluggish, downloads creeped, basically
> > nothing worked.
> 
> To me this sounds very much like when we got hit by serious amounts of
> backscatter.  That is, the messages we kept seeing was bounces for
> spam messages intended for non-existent users elsewhere, so the server
> at the other end was likely a real one, only with deficient spam
> countermeasures.  
> 
> I think anyway you want to do some greytrapping, either the empirical
> approach[1] or Bob Beck's Greyscanner script[2], depending on how much
> you crave 'getting a feel for the data'.  They keep trying, but they
> really don't bother us much anymore, and the addresses I've collected
> at [3] keep turning up in my spamd logs.
> 

I am doing greytrapping through spamd, and using Bob Beck's 
Greyscanner script, but it was not enough. I have not, however,
activated the feature in the Greyscanner script to trap all hosts
that send to unknown RCPT addresses, since I thought it was
a too hard measure.

Now I am trying to improve the Greyscanner. I noticed it did not
trap hosts using an empty envelope sender, unless there were
more than one entry from that host. I regarded it as a bug
and fixed it. I hope an empty envelope sender really
is suspicious or disallowed.



> Anyway, this is not in any way cruel.  This is not cute little furry
> animals we're talking about, but humans, grownups who should know better.
> The fact that they're bouncing spam back means that they were probably
> about to deliver spam to their existing users too, and that is for the
> most part avoidable.

If a backscatter gets through to sendmail, and it is to an invalid
user, what is the proper thing for sendmail to do? My sendmail
most probably does the default, which I guess is to bounce the mail.



> 
> [1] see my ramblings about the fun to be had with greytrapping starting at 
>     http://bsdly.blogspot.com/2007/07/hey-spammer-heres-list-for-you.html 
>     - also the subject of an upcoming BSD Magazine article
> 
> [2] http://www.ualberta.ca/~beck/nycbug06/scripts/greyscanner.41
> 
> [3] http://www.bsdly.net/~peter/traplist.shtml
> 
> -- 
> Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team
> http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.bsdly.net/ http://www.nuug.no/
> "Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic"
> delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds.

-- 

/ Raimo Niskanen, Erlang/OTP, Ericsson AB

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