Hi,

On Fri, 20.02.2009 at 11:49:19 -0600, tico <[email protected]> wrote:
> Toni Mueller wrote:
>> I'm looking into ways to handle STM-1 connections. I dimly remember
>> that there were Marconi cards, that were supported, but can't find them
>> anymore. What would be the recommended method these days to terminate
>> STM-1 circuits, possibly on an OpenBSD based router, please?
>>   
> I don't ever remember hearing about a (OpenBSD-supported) PCI card that  
> would handle an STM-1 -- there are a couple that will handle T1/E1, but  
> I believe that the "biggest" TDM circuit that OpenBSD can terminate  
> directly is perhaps a DS3, via a lmc(4) card, though I have yet to  
> find/use one myself.

in hindsight, I may have confused support in FreeBSD with support in
OpenBSD for an STM-1 ATM card, a few years ago. Sorry.

> You can find a number of vendors that supply DS3-to-100BaseT or  
> STM1-to-GigE media converter,

STM-1-offerings seem to be much less frequent than DS3-offerings.

> but you have to run in them in pairs on  both ends of your
> point-to-point circuit of course.

For DS3, that would be true, but I've been told that this would not be
true for STM-1 circuits.

> If you're getting a  transit from an upstream provider you're screwed
> unless the provider  will deliver ethernet to you (which is
> increasingly the case, since TDM  circuits are super expensive per
> megabit compared to [metro-] ethernet).

Perceived cost is one of the reasons why I'm looking into operating an
STM-1 circuit instead of a Fast-Ethernet Circuit. But I don't have hard
numbers yet.

> If you go with the "media converter on both ends" option, be sure to  
> find one that drops the link on the ethernet side when the STM1 side  
> goes down, and vice versa, so your routing protocols can take  
> appropriate action and not continue to blackhole traffic during outages.

Right. That's another issue with the Ethernet I currently have: It does
_not_ drop link when the fibre goes down. There is even no ETA as to
when this will be fixed - the carrier only talked about "wait for a fix
from <vendor>, but don't know when it will be available".

> Imagestream (proprietary+linux based) works for a good+cheap solution  
> that can talk iBGP to your other ethernet-only routers. Or just get a  
> used Juniper/Crisco/whatever. See also Sangoma's Wanpipe offerings  
> (FreeBSD/linux).

Thanks for your advice, but I want a "solution" centered around
OpenBSD. I've been burned by vendor lock-in often enough to try hard to
avoid doing it again. FWIW, I've talked to Imagestream a few years ago,
and was really not impressed with their offering, in several respects.


Kind regards,
--Toni++

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