On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 01:38:16PM -0600, Bob Beck wrote:
>       Look dude, that ftp site made something available before any of the
> second level mirrors were even opened up to other sites to retreive
> it. Deliberate action was taken to release something early without
> mirroring it from a credible source. Judging by the contents, not all
> of it was exactly 4.5. This is cause for concern to anyone using the
> mirror. 

How many unofficial ftp servers are there on this dangerous
internet which are or might or could be having wrong packages? This is
what ftp.html is all about right? Why is there a list of official
mirrors anyway?

>       It's not like the operator of the site could have done this
> *accidentally* - This showed some kind of deliberate intent to release
> "something" early, and they obviously didn't seem too concerned if it
> was 100% correct. I don't know the reason, and I don't care to. All I know
> is that when we see it, that says "danger". 

This is the german coast gard. We are thinking... That's ridiculous.
 
>       Mirroring is based upon trust. Whoever's running that site obviously
> decided to go rogue and do something goofy.  I don't care who mirrors
> openbsd, but I expect them to actually mirror it through authorized
> channels, not put something up early that is deceptive to the users
> and potentially harmful.  When we *SEE* evidence of this being done, not
> telling the user community is simply irresponsible. 

great reasoning. Now I get it! The word I was missing is "trust".
I almost forgot: In god we trust. Thanks for the reminder.

> * Mike Belopuhov <[email protected]> [2009-05-04 04:55]:
> > C'mon, ftp.kd86.com was delisted from the ftp.html page on Mon Apr 6.
> > Can you just stop bashing Wim?  It doesn't make anyone happier (except
> > Theo probably).  Or maybe we should rush searching the whole fscking
> > internet for the incorrect OpenBSD mirrors?  Chill out, dudes.
> > 
> > On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 11:21 -0600, Bob Beck wrote:
> > >  
> > >   Users are cautioned about rogue ftp sites claiming to have OpenBSD.
> > >  
> > >   The best place to get OpenBSD is from an official CD set, produced in
> > > a secured location
> > >  
> > >   It has come to our attention that some ftp sites (ftp.kd85.com) which
> > > are not official OpenBSD mirrors are purporting to serve OpenBSD 4.5
> > > at this time. We have noted that what is actually present in the 4.5
> > > directory is not 4.5, but rather a late development cycle snapshot which
> > > they have moved into place claiming it is 4.5. 
> > >  
> > >   While we have no problem with anyone mirroring OpenBSD for the good 
> > > of the user community, we do believe that people who offer up the wrong
> > > thing are being deceptive and will hurt the userbase - particularly when
> > > the packages being offered up are not the release versions. 
> > >  
> > >   please ensure you look at http://www.openbsd.org/ftp.html when
> > > choosing to do an ftp install, and don't be fooled by someone "phishing"
> > > for your ftp traffic.
> > 
> 
> -- 
> #!/usr/bin/perl
> if ((not 0 && not 1) !=  (! 0 && ! 1)) {
>    print "Larry and Tom must smoke some really primo stuff...\n"; 
> }
> 

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