* J.C. Roberts <list-...@designtools.org> [2009-09-03 19:12]: > On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 18:16:54 +0200 Henning Brauer > <lists-open...@bsws.de> wrote: > > i don't see any connection to force10. > > > > the successor of the 9000 line is the 8200zl and from all i can tell > > (i never touched on of those myself) has no relation to force10. > > force10's fabric is faster than the 692 GBit/s HP specs for the 8200, > > and the force10s are way way way more expensive. different league, > > entirely. > I saw the 8200zl and 5400zl switches at the InterOp Vegas show. Though > they are not rebranded Foundry/Brocade, I was told they actually are > still rebranded somethings. As I said, I could be wrong recalling Force > 10, and after looking at the specs/pics again, it seems I am wrong on > that. > > Getting people at HP to just admit to rebranding is impossible, but > getting them to tell what's really inside the box is double impossible.
well. the 5400zl is logical progress from the 5300xl (these I use a lot). the 8200 really seems to be the 5400 in big. nothing in these reminds me of anything of another switch vendors, and I have worked with gear from pretty much all the bigger ones. on the other hand, the connection to the smaller (2626/2650) and the even older 2512/2524 is obvious. I'd be very very very very surprised if anything in those models is "rebranded something". and actually procurve is way more open about what's actually inside than any of the other vendors. they do state which asic (generation) and which CPU is inside for every switch, and even down to every module for the modular switches. their service is incredible, the lifetime warranty really is what they promise (they have sent me new chassis twice because they don't have the fan blade seperately, and their warranty actually even covers the fans! and all they ask is the model, serial number and address to ship to. that's it. no stupid paperwork involved). the provide free (really free, no bullshit attached) firmware upgrades, even for really old stuff. the switches sure have their quirks and kinks - just like every other has, but I have never been happier with a switch vendor than now with procurves (i dunno about the really small ones tho). hrm. that was entirely offtopic. hey, you can buy a module for the 5400 that runs openbsd and have your firewall in the switch chassis (yay, ontopic)! -- Henning Brauer, h...@bsws.de, henn...@openbsd.org BS Web Services, http://bsws.de Full-Service ISP - Secure Hosting, Mail and DNS Services Dedicated Servers, Rootservers, Application Hosting - Hamburg & Amsterdam
