On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Marco Peereboom <[email protected]> wrote:
> I gave you the answer several times but I'll humor you and do it one
> more time.

No, you didn't, see below.

This thread started here:

http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=126435421227560&w=2

After I replied to that message (specifically asking and noting that
the conditions are that write-back cache is disabled on both the
controller and disk(s)), you tried to spin it by saying that
write-back cache is enabled everywhere anyway and implying that
rename(2) crash guarantee doesn't apply. Do I understand this
correctly, or you meant something else, perhaps referring to the
previous thread about DJB claimed qmail's crash-proof queue?:

http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=126438080626509&w=2

Then you said "that no one disables WB cache", and that no RAID
controllers are to be trusted, I assume for the same question about
rename(2), or maybe you are talking about somethig else here again?:

http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=126438645130701&w=2

Then I asked

http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=126439429105565&w=2

"Now the simplest case: a SATA controller as found on any recent
motherboard, or a SATA add-on card, and a disk with write-back cache
turned off. What are the problems there?"

AND YOU DIDN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

Instead you are throwing an insult. Usually people do this when they
have nothing to answer:

http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=126445421228585&w=2

Your opinion about RAID controllers that do not disable drives'
write-back cache (and some do disable it) does not directly apply to
my question about a SATA controller with a drive with disabled
write-back cache, which you are refusing to answer.

Paul de Weerd did though, and I am grateful, but I'd rather see your
explanation :)

http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=126446163007758&w=2

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