* [email protected] <[email protected]> [2010-06-23 01:34]:
> Dell made some incredible Optiplex models that were white, using P3's
> from 450MHz to about 1.2Ghz.  I have several at work in production
> service, and some of them are 10 years old.

heck, I have systems that old in production.
the point is - new setups using these just doesn't make sense.
heck, at the very same second where I had to change ANYTHING
hardware-wise on them, they get replaced. if they don't get replaced
anyway. 

> The disks aren't, but the
> machine proper is.  They draw more power than an Atom, thats for
> certain, but they are rock solid, and built FAR better than most things
> today.  Me, I'm the IT department where I work.  The calculus of spending
> more on electricty for systems so stable that they are more likely to
> die when the power dies is pretty obvious to me. ;-)

as rock solid as they might be, at this age, the likeliness of them
dieing anytime soon is growing. fast.

> I've watched everything get bigger, faster and cheaper, but usually at
> the cost of quality.  This includes my ThinkPads, sigh.  I've had several
> conversations where it was admitted that fewer smoothig capicators
> were used because a bean-counter saw they could save money by
> using fewer.  Boards aren't cleaned any more--I have some great
> fingerprint samples of several techs from China.

quality is an issue. i can only say that i am very happy with pretty
much anything i ever got from supermicro. but then i don't buy the
newest and shiniest, ever.

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