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On 09/01/14 18:53, Hugo Osvaldo Barrera wrote:
> On 2014-09-01 11:46, Gilles Chehade wrote:
>> On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 12:28:00PM -0300, Hugo Osvaldo Barrera wrote:
>>> On 2014-08-22 18:32, Giovanni Bechis wrote:
>>>> On 08/22/14 14:30, Hugo Osvaldo Barrera wrote:
>>>>> I recently had some messages bounce from gmail.com. I went up to their 
>>>>> forums
>>>>> to ask what's up, and on the replies, it was pointed out to my that gsmtpd
>>>>> actually sends a rather verbose explanation message when it bounces 
>>>>> messages
>>>>> (eg: if it's spam, invalid return address, blacklisted address, etc).
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's the thread were this was pointed to me. I'm guessing that sending 
>>>>> an
>>>>> email from a non-static IP range is enough to trigger a bounce 
>>>>> harmelessly:
>>>>> https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/gmail/SQQAbew5tfE/-ue8aO07sf8J
>>>>>
>>>>> Can somebody confirm if these explanations are being dropped by smtpd, if
>>>>> they're non-standard, or what's going on?
>>>>>
>>>> gmail warnings are splitted in two or more lines and smtpd logs only one 
>>>> of them.
>>>> See https://github.com/OpenSMTPD/OpenSMTPD/issues/365 for details.
>>>>  Cheers
>>>>   Giovanni
>>>>
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>>>
>>> Looks like the devs were expecting this to make it to the list and it did 
>>> not.
>>> Can we bring that up now? Are there any downsides to implementing this?
>>>
>>
>> Yes, we were waiting for the discussion to come up.
>>
>> There's a downside to implementing this:
>>
>> Imagine you create an account for me on your server.
>> I then decide to go rogue and setup a remote MX which will reply with
>> a HUGE response, say 1000s of lines.
>>
>> We need to log atomically so:
>>
>> a- log line can't be written until we're done reading response;
>> b- session needs to remember every line of the response until done reading;
>>
> 
> Can't we not-log all of it, but keep the message and send it to the original
> sender?
> 
> The logs could be something like:
> 
>   "550 Error... [25 more lines trimmed]"
> 
I would like to have at maximum 5/6 lines of response on my log to be able to 
found if a problem is recurring and which could be the original cause.
 Cheers
  Giovanni
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