On Fri, Sep 02, 2016 at 01:57:18PM +0200, Thuban wrote: > Hello, > I just upgraded openbsd 5.9 to 6.0. As announced on the upgrade page, > some parts of opensmtpd-extras disappeared. Okay. > > I'm actually very surprised to see that simple filters like regexp, or > the very useful spamassassin are gone. >
This experimental API has been enabled for developers to help us find if there are shortcomings, design errors and bugs in the filter layer so we can make this whole mechanism stable both in terms of the interface, and the reliability of the daemon. Instead, filters were written to please users primarily. And since there were written to please the users and not to help us make the API better several filters actually worked-around limitations rather than helping fix them. Some went as far as tweaking fields of structures that were meant to be opaque to filters. Most filters were broken in one or many ways making the daemon unstable, yet people kept telling other people to run this or that filter. Then we receive bug reports and have to investigate if they are because of layer or because of half-baked filter. The very useful spamassassin filter was also very broken, several issues were fixed in the last few months that were specifically filter related, and there are still a few issues with it. The API is not ready for users and we can't cope with troubleshooting issues that aren't related to the API itself but with individual filters. To make it crystal clear: ANY setup running with filters is broken. Some setups will crash, others will leak descriptors, others will block, and some will simply work fine as long as you don't enter an error path. Some filters may work, I don't know, all the ones I read were bad. > Anyway, is there any plan to include them in opensmtpd-extras in the > future? > Yes, when we have solved some of the shortcomings with the API and we're happy enough with it that we actually start writing filters. Today, we need to be able to learn what's wrong with the API and make as many changes as we want without people yelling that their setup is kaput which is not what's been happening lately. > How can I replace these filters? > spamassassin can be used with spampd as a proxy, I don't know if there's a similar tool for regex. -- Gilles Chehade https://www.poolp.org @poolpOrg -- You received this mail because you are subscribed to [email protected] To unsubscribe, send a mail to: [email protected]
