Heho,
you can't, really. Technically, they should set a null MX (RFC7505
[1]), instead of publishing localhost, though.

What would/might help would be loop detection in opensmtpd; I always
kind of assumed that it had it, though; I.e., bouncing messages as soon
as $self already appears in delivered-to with the same dst. address.

Alternatively, you could set a rule at lo tcp/25 to treat local
different from tcp submitted mails.

Still, similar issues, e.g., not setting an MX and thereby having
opensmtpd deliver to the domain's A (often keeping the mail queued for
some time) will still be there.

With best regards,
Tobias

[1] https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7505

On Fri, 2023-02-17 at 16:23 +0100, Heinrich Rebehn wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I stumbled upon a weird situation when trying to send mail to
> t...@webmail.de. smtpd entered into an endless loop:
> 
> ———————————————————————————————————————————
> obsd-test# mail -s test t...@webmail.de
> test
> .
> EOT
> obsd-test# Feb 17 16:00:01 obsd-test smtpd[74143]: f63245c93259f11c
> smtp connected address=local host=obsd-test.rebehn.net
> Feb 17 16:00:01 obsd-test smtpd[74143]: f63245c93259f11c smtp message
> msgid=7157a411 size=363 nrcpt=1 proto=ESMTP
> Feb 17 16:00:01 obsd-test smtpd[74143]: f63245c93259f11c smtp
> envelope evpid=7157a411f91aaef7 from=<r...@obsd-test.rebehn.net>
> to=<t...@webmail.de>
> Feb 17 16:00:01 obsd-test smtpd[74143]: f63245c93259f11c smtp
> disconnected reason=quit
> 2023-02-17T15:00:01.986Z obsd-test newsyslog[87010]: logfile turned
> over
> tail: /var/log/maillog has been replaced, reopening.
> 2023-02-17T15:00:01.986Z obsd-test newsyslog[87010]: logfile turned
> over
> Feb 17 16:00:02 obsd-test smtpd[74143]: f63245cd0d08e264 mta
> connecting address=smtp://127.0.0.1:25 host=localhost
> Feb 17 16:00:02 obsd-test smtpd[74143]: f63245cd0d08e264 mta
> connected
> Feb 17 16:00:02 obsd-test smtpd[74143]: f63245ce7265d1ed smtp
> connected address=127.0.0.1 host=localhost
> Feb 17 16:00:02 obsd-test smtpd[74143]: f63245ce7265d1ed smtp message
> msgid=d2ff5ca2 size=546 nrcpt=1 proto=ESMTP
> Feb 17 16:00:02 obsd-test smtpd[74143]: f63245ce7265d1ed smtp
> envelope evpid=d2ff5ca2aa40c428 from=<r...@obsd-test.rebehn.net>
> to=<t...@webmail.de>
> Feb 17 16:00:02 obsd-test smtpd[74143]: f63245cd0d08e264 mta delivery
> evpid=7157a411f91aaef7 from=<r...@obsd-test.rebehn.net>
> to=<t...@webmail.de> rcpt=<-> source="127.0.0.1" relay="127.0.0.1
> (localhost)" delay=1s result="Ok" stat="250 2.0.0 d2ff5ca2 Message
> accepted for delivery"
> Feb 17 16:00:03 obsd-test smtpd[74143]: f63245ce7265d1ed smtp message
> msgid=209c5192 size=729 nrcpt=1 proto=ESMTP
> Feb 17 16:00:03 obsd-test smtpd[74143]: f63245ce7265d1ed smtp
> envelope evpid=209c519220fca0c2 from=<r...@obsd-test.rebehn.net>
> to=<t...@webmail.de>
> Feb 17 16:00:03 obsd-test smtpd[74143]: f63245cd0d08e264 mta delivery
> evpid=d2ff5ca2aa40c428 from=<r...@obsd-test.rebehn.net>
> to=<t...@webmail.de> rcpt=<-> source="127.0.0.1" relay="127.0.0.1
> (localhost)" delay=1s result="Ok" stat="250 2.0.0 209c5192 Message
> accepted for delivery"
> Feb 17 16:00:04 obsd-test smtpd[74143]: f63245ce7265d1ed smtp message
> msgid=2f497747 size=912 nrcpt=1 proto=ESMTP
> Feb 17 16:00:04 obsd-test smtpd[74143]: f63245ce7265d1ed smtp
> envelope evpid=2f497747f408bbd3 from=<r...@obsd-test.rebehn.net>
> to=<t...@webmail.de>
> Feb 17 16:00:04 obsd-test smtpd[74143]: f63245cd0d08e264 mta delivery
> evpid=209c519220fca0c2 from=<r...@obsd-test.rebehn.net>
> to=<t...@webmail.de> rcpt=<-> source="127.0.0.1" relay="127.0.0.1
> (localhost)" delay=1s result="Ok" stat="250 2.0.0 2f497747 Message
> accepted for delivery”
> 
> etc...
> ——————————————————————————————————————————————
> 
> The reason for this is:
> 
> obsd-test# host webmail.de
> webmail.de has address 64.190.63.111
> webmail.de mail is handled by 0 localhost.
> 
> I mistyped swbmail.de as webmail.de. So it is partially my fault.
> Webmail.de is for sale by sedo.com. It is really weird that they
> enter localhost as mx. They should at least have their own fake
> mailer which simply rejects emails to webmail.com.
> 
> But my question is: How can I harden smtpd.conf against such mx
> entries?
> 
> OpenBSD obsd-test.rebehn.net 7.2 GENERIC#6 amd64 running under ESXi
> 7.0U3
> Clean install, default smtpd.conf
> 
> Thanks for any help,
> 
>         Heinrich
> 
> 

-- 
Dr.-Ing. Tobias Fiebig
T +31 616 80 98 99
M tob...@fiebig.nl


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