Yang jelas .NET sama Borland yang baru efeknya sama... boros resource!
!!
Aku coba delphi 8 aja udah gregetan, mending pake delphi 7 aja dah.
Pake .NET lumayan... lambat juga tapi gak separah delphi 8.
Menurut pendapat yang laen yang udah pernah coba gimana?



--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Mr. Cempe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ya aku maafkan....
> Diskusi di tutup ganti topik lain.
> 
> Ayo ajarin Microsoft.NET nih, lagi pengen tau.
> Microsoft keluar dengan .NET nya, Borland mau keluar dengan 
DiamondBack nya.
> Kita tunggu sepak terjang Microsoft sama Borland. Untuk kita2 cuman 
user
> mana yang enak di pakai ya tinggal pakai.
> 
> [ Artikel Cikal Bakal .NET-nya Microsoft ]
> 
> 
> Conspiracy ?!
> Over the past few weeks I've been thinking "what is the truth behind 
the
> fact that Borland waits for more that 2 years for a .NET compliant 
tool?" Is
> it possible that there is an "unsaid" agreement between Borland and
> Microsoft, that Borland will move aside while MS picks enough of the 
market
> to be sure developers will not look back for a hopefully better RAD 
for
> .NET?
> I've been digging the Internet for some information to confirm my 
thoughts,
> and here's the result of my work. Note: much of the content below 
was
> rephrased from the articles listed in the boxes left of the text.
> 
> Back to the future
> Anders Hejlsberg, Delphi inventor 1995
>       . Anders Hejlsberg a quick info
>       . Goodbye Anders Hejlsberg! We'll miss you...
>       . Anders Hejlsberg Receives Prestigious Excellence in 
Programming
> Award
> Do you know that the man behind Delphi is Anders Hejlsberg, one of 
the
> original members of the Borland company. During his time with 
Borland he
> extended its' Turbo Pascal compiler. Eventually he became the chief
> architect for the team which produced the replacement for Turbo 
Pascal -
> Delphi. As a chief architect at Borland, Hejlsberg secretly turned 
Turbo
> Pascal into an object-oriented application development language, 
complete
> with a truly visual environment and superb database-access features. 
Once
> touted as the "VB killer," Delphi has remained a cornerstone product 
for
> Borland.
> In 1996 he left Borland and joined Microsoft where he was the man 
behind J++
> and the Windows Foundation Classes. More recently he has led the 
team which
> has created the C# programming language, and he's been a key 
participant in
> the development of the .NET Framework.
> Borland vs. Microsoft, a lawsuit 1996/1997
>       . Borland sues Microsoft over brain drain
>       . Borland and Microsoft Announce Settlement
>       . What do you want to own today?
> When Turbo-Pascal and Delphi Developer Anders Hejlsberg and Chief 
developer
> Paul Gross (internet specific products) left Borland to work for 
Microsoft,
> luring them with a generous salary, stock options, and a large sign-
on
> bonus, Borland sued for unfair recruiting practices. Borland also 
claimed -
> that Hejlsberg was working on "Delphi for Java."
> In the suit Borland alleged that Microsoft had hired 34 Borland 
employees
> over the past 30 months in order to steal Borland trade secrets. 
Borland
> also claimed that Microsoft offered and delivered expensive lures to 
Borland
> workers. In two cases, incentives topping $1 million were involved.
> According to the suit:
> . Among the defecting workers were Paul Gross, Borland's senior R&D 
VP, and
> Anders Hejlsberg, a major player in the development of Borland's 
technology.
> . Microsoft offered Paul Gross a $1 million signing bonus, stock 
options,
> and title to real estate near Microsoft's headquarters. He left 
Borland for
> Microsoft in September 1996.
> . Microsoft offered Anders Hejlsberg a signing bonus of $1.5 million 
and
> stock options. Microsoft doubled the bonus to $3 million after 
Borland made
> a counter-offer. Hejlsberg left Borland in October 1996.
> 
> Due to the circumstances, Borland reports quarterly losses for the 
4th time
> within the last 8 quarters (2 years) and announces they will reduce 
the
> number of employees by 15%. Borland wants to leave the end user 
business and
> enter the market for business solutions.
> 
> After two years, Borland and Microsoft have settled their lawsuit. 
In a
> joint statement, Borland and Microsoft said, "We believe this 
settlement is
> in the best interest of both our companies. This settlement resolves 
any
> legal questions surrounding the lawsuit and allows both companies to 
move
> forward." With that short statement, both companies have agreed to 
make no
> further comments on the settlement. Details of the settlement were
> confidential. So this suit was eventually settled; by that time, 
however,
> Microsoft had put Hejlsberg to work.
> 
> Microsoft "buys" Borland, 1999
>       . Microsoft Buys Into Inprise (Borland), Settles Disputes
>       . Borland and Microsoft Announce Settlement
>       . Microsoft: Resistance is futile
> June 8, 1999. Microsoft has bought a $25 million stake in Inprise, 
formerly
> Borland, and entered into a $100 million alliance with the former 
rival.
> Companies announced a set of technology and licensing agreements 
that will
> be the basis for a long-term alliance between the two companies. As 
part of
> the Microsoft/Inprise partnership, Inprise has agreed to do the 
following:
> . Support the Microsoft Windows 2000 operating system, including the 
COM+
> and the Windows Distributed interNet Applications (Windows DNA)
> architecture;
> . License the latest version of the Microsoft Foundation Classes 
(MFC), the
> standard C++ class library for developing applications for Windows. 
MFC will
> ship with Borland C++Builder;
> . License the latest version of the Windows platform software 
development
> kit (SDK) through the Microsoft Open Tools licensing programm.
> And most importantly, the companies have also agreed to settle a 
number of
> long-standing patent and technology licensing issues.
> 
> In exchange for a desperately needed $125 million cash infusion, 
Borland
> gave Microsoft the blueprints for much of its key technology, let 
Microsoft
> off the hook by settling long-standing patent disputes, and agreed 
to tie
> its own tools even more tightly to the Windows operating system. 
Inprise
> agreed to provide full access to more than 100 of its technology 
patents,
> including spreadsheet technologies and pending patent applications 
related
> to newer products. This transaction signified final victory for 
Microsoft in
> an epic battle to control the desktop database and development tool
> businesses.
> 
> The agreements surprised analysts and industry observers. "It 
doesn't seem
> like Inprise needed Microsoft technology or that Microsoft needed 
Inprise",
> "I think there's more going on under the covers than is obvious. 
That's a
> lot of money to pay for something like that.", were some opinions
> 
> Conspiracy ?!
> Over the past few weeks I've been thinking "what is the truth behind 
the
> fact that Borland waits for more that 2 years for a .NET compliant 
tool?" Is
> it possible that there is an "unsaid" agreement between Borland and
> Microsoft, that Borland will move aside while MS picks enough of the 
market
> to be sure developers will not look back for a hopefully better RAD 
for
> .NET?
> 
> I've been digging the Internet for some information to confirm my 
thoughts,
> and here's the result of my work. Note: much of the content below 
was
> rephrased from the articles listed in the boxes left of the text.
> 
> Back to the future
> Anders Hejlsberg, Delphi inventor 1995
>       . Anders Hejlsberg a quick info
>       . Goodbye Anders Hejlsberg! We'll miss you...
>       . Anders Hejlsberg Receives Prestigious Excellence in 
Programming
> Award
> Do you know that the man behind Delphi is Anders Hejlsberg, one of 
the
> original members of the Borland company. During his time with 
Borland he
> extended its' Turbo Pascal compiler. Eventually he became the chief
> architect for the team which produced the replacement for Turbo 
Pascal -
> Delphi. As a chief architect at Borland, Hejlsberg secretly turned 
Turbo
> Pascal into an object-oriented application development language, 
complete
> with a truly visual environment and superb database-access features. 
Once
> touted as the "VB killer," Delphi has remained a cornerstone product 
for
> Borland.
> In 1996 he left Borland and joined Microsoft where he was the man 
behind J++
> and the Windows Foundation Classes. More recently he has led the 
team which
> has created the C# programming language, and he's been a key 
participant in
> the development of the .NET Framework.
> 
> Borland vs. Microsoft, a lawsuit 1996/1997
>       . Borland sues Microsoft over brain drain
>       . Borland and Microsoft Announce Settlement
>       . What do you want to own today?
> When Turbo-Pascal and Delphi Developer Anders Hejlsberg and Chief 
developer
> Paul Gross (internet specific products) left Borland to work for 
Microsoft,
> luring them with a generous salary, stock options, and a large sign-
on
> bonus, Borland sued for unfair recruiting practices. Borland also 
claimed -
> that Hejlsberg was working on "Delphi for Java."
> In the suit Borland alleged that Microsoft had hired 34 Borland 
employees
> over the past 30 months in order to steal Borland trade secrets. 
Borland
> also claimed that Microsoft offered and delivered expensive lures to 
Borland
> workers. In two cases, incentives topping $1 million were involved.
> According to the suit:
> . Among the defecting workers were Paul Gross, Borland's senior R&D 
VP, and
> Anders Hejlsberg, a major player in the development of Borland's 
technology.
> . Microsoft offered Paul Gross a $1 million signing bonus, stock 
options,
> and title to real estate near Microsoft's headquarters. He left 
Borland for
> Microsoft in September 1996.
> . Microsoft offered Anders Hejlsberg a signing bonus of $1.5 million 
and
> stock options. Microsoft doubled the bonus to $3 million after 
Borland made
> a counter-offer. Hejlsberg left Borland in October 1996.
> 
> Due to the circumstances, Borland reports quarterly losses for the 
4th time
> within the last 8 quarters (2 years) and announces they will reduce 
the
> number of employees by 15%. Borland wants to leave the end user 
business and
> enter the market for business solutions.
> 
> After two years, Borland and Microsoft have settled their lawsuit. 
In a
> joint statement, Borland and Microsoft said, "We believe this 
settlement is
> in the best interest of both our companies. This settlement resolves 
any
> legal questions surrounding the lawsuit and allows both companies to 
move
> forward." With that short statement, both companies have agreed to 
make no
> further comments on the settlement. Details of the settlement were
> confidential. So this suit was eventually settled; by that time, 
however,
> Microsoft had put Hejlsberg to work.
> 
> Microsoft "buys" Borland, 1999
>       . Microsoft Buys Into Inprise (Borland), Settles Disputes
>       . Borland and Microsoft Announce Settlement
>       . Microsoft: Resistance is futile
> June 8, 1999. Microsoft has bought a $25 million stake in Inprise, 
formerly
> Borland, and entered into a $100 million alliance with the former 
rival.
> Companies announced a set of technology and licensing agreements 
that will
> be the basis for a long-term alliance between the two companies. As 
part of
> the Microsoft/Inprise partnership, Inprise has agreed to do the 
following:
> . Support the Microsoft Windows 2000 operating system, including the 
COM+
> and the Windows Distributed interNet Applications (Windows DNA)
> architecture;
> . License the latest version of the Microsoft Foundation Classes 
(MFC), the
> standard C++ class library for developing applications for Windows. 
MFC will
> ship with Borland C++Builder;
> . License the latest version of the Windows platform software 
development
> kit (SDK) through the Microsoft Open Tools licensing programm.
> And most importantly, the companies have also agreed to settle a 
number of
> long-standing patent and technology licensing issues.
> 
> In exchange for a desperately needed $125 million cash infusion, 
Borland
> gave Microsoft the blueprints for much of its key technology, let 
Microsoft
> off the hook by settling long-standing patent disputes, and agreed 
to tie
> its own tools even more tightly to the Windows operating system. 
Inprise
> agreed to provide full access to more than 100 of its technology 
patents,
> including spreadsheet technologies and pending patent applications 
related
> to newer products. This transaction signified final victory for 
Microsoft in
> an epic battle to control the desktop database and development tool
> businesses.
> 
> The agreements surprised analysts and industry observers. "It 
doesn't seem
> like Inprise needed Microsoft technology or that Microsoft needed 
Inprise",
> "I think there's more going on under the covers than is obvious. 
That's a
> lot of money to pay for something like that.", were some opinions
> 
> *** Uang mengalahkan segala-galanya...hehehehe
> 
> Untuk lebih lengkapnya baca sendiri disini :
> http://delphi.about.com/library/weekly/aa112902b.htm
> 
> 
> 
> Mr. cMp
> [BlajaranProgramGakOnokSingNyantolBlass]





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