Greetings Pascal and rest of the ML....
First let me say that using WebKit for a rendering engine would be possible
with custom widgets.... see this example (
http://daniel-albuschat.blogspot.com/2008/12/embedding-qt-widgets-into-qtwebkit.html),
where a Qt Calendar Widget is embedded into a web page.
There would have to be some experimentation to see if it would be workable
in practice (opengl performance okay?, handlingly resizing - WebKit supports
SVG but not sure how reflowing would work). But before you dismiss using
QtWebKit as a layout engine as totally crazy, there are at least a couple
potential benefits that I'm not sure have thoroughly considered.
The first benefit would be the ability to script UI rendering behaviors via
Javascript and css/div tags... One could toggle visibility and position
entire sections of the UI, through CSS hidden/show and Javascript element
positioning... It might even be possible for a user to drag and drop bits
of the interface during runtime saving those as a skin config cookie. I'm
not sure easy such behaviours would be implementable without a HTML-like UI
rendering engine.
The second benefit would be open access to UI design up to a world full of
web UI developers, who might want to take advantage of using their skills to
make cool looking stuff on a non-web medium...
Okay, so maybe it is crazy... lol... Anyway, I think everyone was in
favour of the Scalable UI thing when we talked about it a year or so back
with the proliferation of skins needed for the vast scale differences from
netbooks to 30" monitors, but at the time we prioritized things like a
better library interface, better device control and looping as more
important+we-knew-how-to-do, where as the Qt+CSS+SVG-widgets stuff was all
very much new to us... I'm always glad to see renewed interest, welcome to
the Mixxx Devel ML! :D
Cheers from Japan,
-G
[PS. If we ever do another run of "Mixxx" stickers, we gotta get
http://mixxx.org on there, so we can tag the world! :D]
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On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Pascal Huerst <pascal.hue...@bluewin.ch>wrote:
> Posted my thoughts about that topic in the forum:
>
> http://www.mixxx.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=729&start=10
>
>
> > pascal.hue...@bluewin.ch a écrit :
> >> Hi Ryan,
> >>
> >> i got my development version working. Today I could spend some hours to
> review the code and I think, that I understand the basic concept. I also
> read the development roadmap, but sometimes its hard to guess, what exactly
> is meant by topic XYZ, if one is not that deep in the project already.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> But there is one thing I'd like to change first: "The Skin System"
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I'm not sure if there was a lot of discussion about that topic in the
> past, but I think because of the way it is done, the GUI doesn't behave as a
> user might expect. (Full screen and so forth) Skins must not depend on the
> screen's resolution. I think it should be done as a box layout similar to
> CSS. Therefore I would not use png Files, but SVG insteat. I already made
> some custom widgets in Qt, using SVG files and they look great, because Qt
> is going to re-
> >> render the SVG's on resize. (I think there won't be any performance
> problems rendering the images after a resize of the GUI ?!)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I know this is not on the roadmap, not even for 1.9, so maybe nobody
> thought about it or it doesn't seem to be important, but I think, since the
> visual experience is always the first impression of a software, it is more
> important than one might expect. So i suggest to start that rewrite (maybe
> just as a try, if it doesn't work very well) and show you my results and
> then we can see if its a feature you like to integrate or not.
> >>
> >>
> > This is a good idea IHMO, and if I had the time to contribute, that's
> what I would implement. Auto-resizable UI with constraints. However i'd stay
> clear of SVG and would use
> > Qt Layouts. I would extend the XML skin format to specify Qt Layout as
> containers and appropriate constraints for contained objects, pretty much
> like you can do using Java Swing.
> > I don't think you'd need to resize the image itselves, I'd just
> concentrate on proper scalable layouting.
>
>
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