I am not sure what you are asking. Those USB traffic logs are from my friend's SL4 working in a Windows 7 virtual machine (with plenty of audible pops presumably because it is in a VM). The lsusb output is what I see with Linux before passing the device through to the VM. I do not have access to any of the class-compliant Rane analog mixers with USB sound cards for comparison.
On Apr 21, 2015 12:28 PM, Tuukka Pasanen <pasanen.tuu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hello, > Do you happen to have some RANE that works? It could be good to see > what is diffrent with snoop. > > Tuukka > > 2015-04-21 12:45 GMT+03:00 Tuukka Pasanen <pasanen.tuu...@gmail.com>: > > Hello, > > And seems that RANE doesn't inform USB subsystem so have to read USB > > snoops :D but this can be simple case if I'm correct. > > > > Tuukka > > > > 2015-04-21 12:43 GMT+03:00 Tuukka Pasanen <pasanen.tuu...@gmail.com>: > >> Hello, > >> Actually they don't if there ain't mappings for them in ALSA usb. > >> > >> Tuukka > >> > >> 2015-04-21 10:49 GMT+03:00 Be <b...@gmx.com>: > >>> I attached the output of lsusb -vvv for an SL4. I ran 'cat /dev/hidraw0' > >>> and flipped all the hardware switches. I did not see any output. > >>> I captured logs playing and taking input from each individual channel > >>> sequentially. Be warned that the 185 MB tar.xz unpacks to 2.0 GB: > >>> http://www.megafileupload.com/2DRx/rane-sl4-per-channel.tar.xz > >>> > >>> I do know someone with an SL3. I'll plug it into my laptop sometime and > >>> record USB traffic from that. I do not know anyone with an SL2. > >>> > >>> If these devices were class compliant, wouldn't they just work with > >>> Linux without any special driver? > >>> > >>> On 04/21/2015 12:18 AM, Tuukka Pasanen wrote: > >>>> Hello, > >>>> Currenlty I don't have access RANE product which makes this little > >>>> hard. I just thought that because SL1 was USB compliant. I think > >>>> biggest uncompliance can be that they only support 24/48 bits. > >>>> > >>>> Tuukka > >>>> > >>>> 2015-04-19 18:29 GMT+03:00 Be <b...@gmx.com>: > >>>>> Do you have access to an SL3? I was planning to borrow a friend's and > >>>>> send logs of the USB traffic to you, but if you have access to one I > >>>>> wouldn't need to do that. Does anyone have access to an SL2? > >>>>> > >>>>> I don't think any of the SL2/SL3/SL4 are class compliant. Rane's analog > >>>>> mixers with digital audio interfaces built in (Sixty-One, Sixty-Two, > >>>>> Sixty-Four, and Sixty-Eight) are class compliant audio and MIDI devices > >>>>> though. If anyone has access to these, it would be great if you could > >>>>> make MIDI mappings. > >>>>> > >>>>> On 04/19/2015 07:21 AM, Tuukka Pasanen wrote: > >>>>>> Hello, > >>>>>> Yes I'm on this case also. I've been studying my working USB audio > >>>>>> system that follows USB audio specification and learned reading USB > >>>>>> dumps again :) I hope last time I've done something like this Internet > >>>>>> would be as neat is today. If I'm not really wrong SL3 follows USB > >>>>>> audio spec but I have to make few more tests (there can be some > >>>>>> strange stuff). > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Tuukka > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 2015-04-17 17:49 GMT+03:00 Be <b...@gmx.com>: > >>>>>>> Just letting you know I haven't abandoned this. I've been busy with > >>>>>>> school the last week or so. I'll probably be able to get that info > >>>>>>> next > >>>>>>> week, and hopefully get USB traffic logs from an SL3 as well. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 04/07/2015 04:57 AM, Tuukka Pasanen wrote: > >>>>>>>> Hello, > >>>>>>>> Ok I've been looking little bit into this and need lsusb -vvv with > >>>>>>>> SL-4 and you don't know anyone how has Linux and Rane SL-2/SL-3? > >>>>>>>> just interested about those USB vendor/product numbers because SL-1 > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> having totally different Vendor than SL-4. So are SL-2/3. > >>>>>>>> from same company. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Tuukka > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 2015-04-06 9:50 GMT+03:00 Tuukka Pasanen <pasanen.tuu...@gmail.com>: > >>>>>>>>> Hello, > >>>>>>>>> There is some HID device if you see that on DMesg and probably it's > >>>>>>>>> just that 96/48/24 switch or something but i'll take a look of > >>>>>>>>> those > >>>>>>>>> captures and get back on this list. I found also those Vinyl > >>>>>>>>> patches > >>>>>>>>> but they are not very helpfull on this. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Tuukka > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> 2015-04-05 21:53 GMT+03:00 Be <b...@gmx.com>: > >>>>>>>>>> I think I'll be able to use the SL4 again tomorrow, so I'll see > >>>>>>>>>> what's > >>>>>>>>>> up with that HID device. I'm doubting the device actually uses > >>>>>>>>>> HID; I > >>>>>>>>>> think that's Linux not knowing what to do with it. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I wrote a short explanation of what was captured with each log > >>>>>>>>>> file in > >>>>>>>>>> the README in the archive. If you let me know before tomorrow > >>>>>>>>>> evening if > >>>>>>>>>> there is any other kind of information I should capture, I could > >>>>>>>>>> get the > >>>>>>>>>> info tomorrow night. Would it be necessary to log the USB traffic > >>>>>>>>>> when > >>>>>>>>>> playing/listening to each individual channel? If so, I'll try > >>>>>>>>>> installing > >>>>>>>>>> a 1.12 nightly in my Windows 7 VM and use Mixxx with mono > >>>>>>>>>> channels. > >>>>>>>>>> Alternatively, if anyone knows of another Windows program that can > >>>>>>>>>> play > >>>>>>>>>> and record from individual channels with an ASIO driver, let me > >>>>>>>>>> know. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> The SL 2, 3, and 4 only work with 24 bit samples. Oddly, the SL4 > >>>>>>>>>> has a > >>>>>>>>>> physical switch for toggling between 48 kHz and 96 kHz sample > >>>>>>>>>> rates. It > >>>>>>>>>> sends info to the driver when the switch is flipped, which I > >>>>>>>>>> recorded. > >>>>>>>>>> It does not work at 44.1 kHz. The SL 2 and SL 3 work at 44.1 kHz > >>>>>>>>>> and 48 > >>>>>>>>>> kHz, which I think is toggled by software. See the second page of > >>>>>>>>>> http://www.rane.com/pdf/scratchlivedata.pdf for a comparison of > >>>>>>>>>> the Rane > >>>>>>>>>> Serato hardware. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Yes, that link is the SL1 driver I was talking about. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Let's keep this discussion on the mixxx-devel list. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On 04/05/2015 01:18 PM, Tuukka Pasanen wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> Hello, > >>>>>>>>>>> There should be /dev/hiddev0 and as I see also /dev/input/event3 > >>>>>>>>>>> that > >>>>>>>>>>> emits something or it's just raw hiddev. If there is event3 or > >>>>>>>>>>> input3 > >>>>>>>>>>> it's easier to find out but if there is not you have to just cat > >>>>>>>>>>> /dev/hiddev0 and try to push all buttons and switches and when > >>>>>>>>>>> something happens it mapped to that button (and I assume it's > >>>>>>>>>>> volume > >>>>>>>>>>> or something because it's HIDDEV). > >>>>>>>>>>> Is capture made from power on and then there should be come in > >>>>>>>>>>> vinyl > >>>>>>>>>>> analog signal? Is there also output through Rane SL4? Just trying > >>>>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>> figure out what should be in this 600MB blob.. Can you change any > >>>>>>>>>>> format to input (PCM Stereo 16bit or Float 32 bits) but I assume > >>>>>>>>>>> there > >>>>>>>>>>> ain't that kind of freedom. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Is this the 'Driver' you were talking about? > >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.spinics.net/lists/alsa-devel/msg09298.html > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Because I didn't find anything else.. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Tuukka > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 2015-04-05 20:47 GMT+03:00 Be <b...@gmx.com>: > >>>>>>>>>>>> No, ALSA doesn't do anything with the device. /proc/asound/cards > >>>>>>>>>>>> did not > >>>>>>>>>>>> show anything about the SL4. I do not know what hiddev0 maps to. > >>>>>>>>>>>> How > >>>>>>>>>>>> could I find this out? I presumed the kernel said it was an HID > >>>>>>>>>>>> device > >>>>>>>>>>>> because it had no idea what else to do with it. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On 04/05/2015 12:37 PM, Tuukka Pasanen wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello, > >>>>>>>>>>>>> What does this hiddev (hiddev0) map to? Is it volume? Does ALSA > >>>>>>>>>>>>> driver > >>>>>>>>>>>>> work anything? > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Tuukka > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-04-05 18:43 GMT+03:00 Be <b...@gmx.com>: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 19MB tar.xz of the Wireshark logs, with a README explaining > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> what each > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> log is: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.megafileupload.com/Tg6/rane-sl4-usb-signals.tar.xz > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If anyone has an issue with that link, email me off list and > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> directly email it to you. Beware that the uncompressed archive > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is 622 MB. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> lsusb showed the SL4 as: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bus 002 Device 005: ID 1cc5:000f (no text on the line after > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this) > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I forgot to run lsusb -vvv with it. Let me know if that would > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be helpful. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> dmesg output when plugging in the SL4: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [ 327.561099] usb 2-4: new high-speed USB device number 5 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> using ehci-pci > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [ 327.677736] usb 2-4: New USB device found, idVendor=1cc5, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> idProduct=000f > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [ 327.677745] usb 2-4: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Product=2, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> SerialNumber=3 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [ 327.677749] usb 2-4: Product: Rane SL 4 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [ 327.677753] usb 2-4: Manufacturer: Rane Corporation > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [ 327.677756] usb 2-4: SerialNumber: RH.01.00 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [ 327.683560] hid-generic 0003:1CC5:000F.0008: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hiddev0,hidraw2: USB HID > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> v1.10 Device [Rane Corporation Rane SL 4] on > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> usb-0000:00:06.1-4/input3 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 04/05/2015 01:34 AM, Tuukka Pasanen wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If capture ain't too big you can mail it to or put link > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> somewhere so I > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> take a look at it. Is it in wireshark format (so I can load > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it without > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem)? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tuukka > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-04-05 9:16 GMT+03:00 Be <b...@gmx.com>: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I tried Crossfade on my friend's setup who normally uses > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Serato. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, it's useless to him and many vinyl DJs because > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there is no > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Linux driver for the current generation of Serato sound > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cards, the Rane > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SL2, SL3, and SL4. There is an incomplete driver for the old > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> USB 1.1 SL1 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that can't control the phono preamps. Fortunately, the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SL2/3/4 have the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phono preamps controlled by physical switches. The only > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feature that > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> must be controlled by a driver is analog pass-through. I > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> setup a Windows > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7 VM on my computer, plugged in my friend's SL4, and > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> captured the raw > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> USB traffic with Wireshark when plugging in the device, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> toggling analog > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pass throughs, and running Mixxx. Would anyone with the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ability to do so > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be interested in using this information to write a Linux > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> driver for > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these cards? I am also planning on recording the raw USB > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> traffic with > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another friend's SL3. Does anyone have an SL2 or know > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone who does > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and would be willing to get info for that model? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I posted to alsa-devel and apparently no one there is > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interested. 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