I see, thank you for explaining!

2016-04-07 0:43 GMT+02:00 Be <b...@gmx.com>:

> All sound cards work differently, but I don't think it matters whether the
> sound card has digital or analog gain. Either works better with a stronger
> signal coming in.
>
> My sound card has digital gains and meters on the device, so I can
> actually see whether the signal is at the same level to confirm this. I
> just experimented turning the main gain in Mixxx down with the sound card
> all the way up versus leaving the main gain knob at unity in Mixxx and
> turning down the sound card. The former definitely sounded worse than the
> latter.
>
> On 04/06/2016 05:19 PM, Ferran Pujol Camins wrote:
>
>> I understand, but isn't the OS mixer just decreasing or increasing the
>> volume digitally? In that case, if the OS mixer volume is 100% (no
>> volume modification) and mixxx gain is 30% is the same than Os mixer 30%
>> and mixxx 100%, am I wrong?
>>
>> 2016-04-07 0:13 GMT+02:00 Be <b...@gmx.com <mailto:b...@gmx.com>>:
>>
>>     It's better to have Mixxx sending the sound card a signal with a
>>     high signal-to-noise ratio than turn the gain down in Mixxx and send
>>     a signal with a lower S/N ratio to the sound card. To reach a
>>     comparable volume, the signal would have to be amplified somewhere
>>     down the line (sound card, mixer, amplifier, or whatever), which
>>     would amplify more noise. Or to turn the volume down, it would still
>>     sound better to send a strong signal out of Mixxx and attenuate it
>>     further down the signal chain.
>>
>>
>> http://mixxx.org/manual/latest/chapters/djing_with_mixxx.html#djing-gain-staging
>>
>>     On 04/06/2016 05:02 PM, Ferran Pujol Camins wrote:
>>
>>         But why is it better?
>>
>>         2016-04-06 23:59 GMT+02:00 Be <b...@gmx.com
>>         <mailto:b...@gmx.com> <mailto:b...@gmx.com <mailto:b...@gmx.com
>> >>>:
>>
>>
>>              The gain in Mixxx controls the signal that is sent to the
>> sound
>>              card. The OS mixer controls the sound card.
>>
>>              On 04/06/2016 04:57 PM, Ferran Pujol Camins wrote:
>>
>>                  What's the difference between lowering the volume in
>>         mixxx and
>>                  in the OS
>>                  mixer?
>>
>>                  2016-04-06 23:43 GMT+02:00 Be <b...@gmx.com
>>         <mailto:b...@gmx.com>
>>                  <mailto:b...@gmx.com <mailto:b...@gmx.com>>
>>         <mailto:b...@gmx.com <mailto:b...@gmx.com> <mailto:b...@gmx.com
>>         <mailto:b...@gmx.com>>>>:
>>
>>
>>
>>                       I've been working on the wiki and reviewing
>> controller
>>                  mappings lately.
>>                       I did a little editing to the language of the DJ
>>         Hardware Guide
>>
>>           (http://mixxx.org/wiki/doku.php/hardware_compatibility ),
>>                  split the
>>                       custom caps section to its own page, and revived
>>         the old
>>                  headphones
>>                       section on its own page.
>>
>>                       In reviewing mappings, it has become apparent that
>>         there
>>                  should be
>>                       guidelines on how to handle main & headphone gain
>>         knobs on
>>                  controllers.
>>                       I added a section to the Contributing Mappings page
>>
>>
>>         (
>> http://mixxx.org/wiki/doku.php/contributing_mappings#main_headphone_gain_knobs
>>                       ) with some guidelines and started a new page
>>
>>           (http://mixxx.org/wiki/doku.php/operating_system_mixer ) with
>>                       information about adjusting sound card levels. It
>>         would be
>>                  great if
>>                       others could contribute details and screenshots to
>>         the new
>>                  Operating
>>                       System Mixer page.
>>
>>                       Two cases that I'd like to ask about is when a
>>         controller
>>                  has a sound
>>                       card without any gain controls or doesn't have a
>>         sound card
>>                  but does
>>                       have main & headphone gain controls. In these
>>         cases, should
>>                  the controls
>>                       be mapped to the software gains in Mixxx or not?
>>         If they
>>                  should be
>>                       mapped, then I think the controller's wiki page
>> should
>>                  advise users not
>>                       to use them in most cases and link to the OS Mixer
>>         page.
>>
>>                       I also split the Contributing Mappings page into
>>         smaller
>>                  sections and
>>                       put a bit more context in the introduction. I added
>> a
>>                  little section on
>>                       documenting how microphone inputs work too.
>>
>>
>>
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