On 10/31/2016 11:28 AM, Sean M. Pappalardo - D.J. Pegasus wrote:
>
> On 10/31/2016 09:04 AM, Be wrote:
>> Thanks for clarifying. I understand turning up the gain on an
>> onboard sound card wouldn't work great, but that's not my intended
>> use case. If this is where the recommendation to use a phono preamp
>> comes from, it should be clarified in the documentation.
>
> Essentially, since most Mixxx users don't have high-end hardware and/or
> want to test out VC before buying additional gear. But we've never
> tested or heard reports of others trying it on higher-end gear, so we
> don't really know how well it would work in practice. At best, results
> will vary depending on the specific sound card and environment. (We
> write the documentation to help the average user get good results with
> minimal fuss, so usually only talk about best practices.)

Well, if it works with the Maya44 USB as the link Daniel posted reports, 
I don't know why it wouldn't work with a higher quality sound card. I 
guess I'll have to test to confirm and clarify the manual and wiki 
accordingly.

>> indicate these can provide 118 dB gain (trim range -96 to +22 dBu)
>> with -102 dB THD+N. I believe that would be way more than adequate
>> for boosting phono level to line. Of course it wouldn't provide
>> inverse RIAA equalization, hence the question.
>
> The analog noise (coming in on the cables before the ADC) you'll get
> from that much linear gain (~46dB) could still interfere with the HF
> time code position signal.

Noise picked up along the cable would be just as much of a problem for a 
Traktor Scratch A6/A10 as it would be for a MOTU Ultralite AVB, unless 
sound cards with phono preamps have some sort of processing before the 
ADC that minimizes the effect of the noise. I suppose inverse RIAA EQ 
could have that effect, but I'm doubtful. I'm also doubtful they EQ the 
signal before it goes through the op amp.

>> The Mixxx manual explicitly states that microphone inputs won't work
>> for timecode. Was this also in reference to onboard sound cards? If
>> so, this should be clarified.
>
> No, it's because the time code signal is stereo while microphone inputs
> are mono.

Ah, okay. That doesn't mean that two microphone inputs couldn't work though.

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