Hi Steven 
  
> > [ Please CC me since I don't subscribe to this list ]
>       I usually do NOT do that - I consider it impolite to not join the
>       group but still ask people for advice/answers/help.
>       Want some help?  Join the community - it is a low volume and usually
>       informative mailing list.

Yep, I understand your viewpoint.  However, at present for a variety of
reasons my inbox is already seeing very heavy traffic and subscribing to
even a low volume list won't make things any better.  I'll check the
subscription page... if there's a digest option I might do it.

>       Could be the same problem that Apple's MPEG-2 decoder has:  lack
>       of DPME (Dual Prime Motion Estimation) decoding support.
> 
>       What happens if you play the DVD using Ogle?   It also does not
>       implement DP decoding.

I haven't tried that.  I'll give it a go over the next few days.

> > The result of all this is that it seems mjpeptools is putting something in
> > the P frames which the hardware DVD players don't like.  Software players 
> > (Mplayer, ffplay) seem quite happy with them though, which is curious.    
> 
>       No, it's the lack of B frames.

Between my initial post and now I have since discovered that including B
frames in the stream does fix the problem.  What is it about the B frames
which makes this particular player happy with the I frames which are of  
course still there?  Do DVD hardware players in general work with streams
containing no B frames?

Regards
  jonathan
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