On Tue, 24 Aug 2004, Anne Wilson wrote:

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> On Tuesday 24 Aug 2004 04:16, Selva Nair wrote:
> > Hi Anne,
> >
> Hi, Selva
> 
> >   At last I managed to reproduce your stuttering audio on another machine
> > with the latest xine (xine-lib-1-rc5, xine-ui-0.99.2). The older
> > version of xine plays it fine, though.
> >
> Interesting.
> 
> >   After some experimentation this is what I have concluded. The audio
> > stutters when the average bitrate is much below the dvd rate (see below)
> > but is mplexed at the dvd rate (with -f 8).  This could be something
> > peculiar about this version of xine, may be not. xine-0.9.20, mplayer and
> > vlc play the clip fine.

I do not understand why multiplex rate should affect playback, that's why
I left it for your experimentaion instead of spamming the list 
with my half-baked conclusions ;)

By the way, later (> 1.6.1 release?) versions of mplex can be forced to
use a lower bitrate than the default of 10.08Mbps with -f 8. That may be
another way to multiplex low bit-rate streams. 

I really do not know whether its important to keep the mplex rate not too
much higher than the actual video+audio rate. Also is there a practical
lower limit for dvd bitrate? 

> >
> I've left the whole quoted, because it will be useful in the archives, I 
> think.  This is definitely the right track.  Encoding at -q 4 brought fewer 
> stutters, -q 3 didn't seem much better - the file size was not much bigger, 
> and there were still quite a few stutters.  At -q  the file size shot up to 
> around 56 MB, and the only stutters were one at the beginning, where there 
> was a fault in the input file, so unavoidable, and in the last 2-3 seconds.  
> Although it's not perfect I could live with that.

Even if the issue was with the mplex rate, that much fine tuning should
not be required. I never had any audio problem with mpeg2enc/mplex
although I haven't used used extreme values of bit rates. Possibly
something is wrong with xine too: if you run xine with --verbose you may
get some messages on audio drifts, if any.

Selva



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