Ditto

My 2.0L shortblock is also b&b.  Combined with a p&p 2.0L head and 256 cams 
(I'd love to upgrade, but I'm valiantly trying to call a halt to any more 
upgrades), a lightened flywheel, my car revvs like crazy.  It starts to pull 
strongly at about 4,3K.  It produces maximum hp at 6,500, but it pulls almost 
as strongly to 7 or 7,1K.

Not only does the b&b shortblock make my motor more revv happy, but it also 
helps to make it sound very sweet.

Chris

        -----Original Message-----
        From:   vw racer [SMTP:[email protected]]
        Sent:   Wednesday, May 16, 2001 1:24 PM
        To:     [email protected]
        Subject:        Re: Driving impressions of Autotech Cam set... (long 
long long)

        My 2035 revved great, but I think the balancing and lightening had alot 
to 
        do with it.
        Fred


        >From: Clayton <[email protected]>
        >To: [email protected]
        >Subject: Re: Driving impressions of Autotech Cam set... (long long 
long)
        >Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 10:14:00 -0700
        >
        >Hi Denis,
        >Ya know, I sort of have had the same thing happen to me on my car, only
        >the opposite.  I have a nice rabbit converted to 16v's.  The person who
        >built the car was meticulous, anal retentive, and spent lots of money 
on
        >the car.  It had a 1.8l though and I could never understand why someone
        >would put all this work into their car and leave a 1.8l in there.  When
        >I would take the car out to the green river road and blast it, I was
        >always ***amazed*** at how quick the car was.  On the track, it was a
        >thing of beauty.  It would rev to the redline and keep building 
power...
        >I felt like I needed another 750-1000 rpms because I was wasting
        >something by not revving higher.  Well, too much of a good thing is not
        >possible so I installed a 2.0l bottom end.  Absolutely no other
        >changes... just a straight swap.  What I received was great low end...
        >but a marked decrease in the top.  Before, if I started out bogging the
        >car in first and just kept if floored, the power would build and build
        >and build all the way to red, then do it again in second.  Now, it
        >starts coming on down low and starts spinning the tires at around
        >4000rpm.  It runs out of steam around 6000 rpm, as compared to the 1.8l
        >though.  Thought it might be cams, so I stuck in a set of Schrick
        >268's.  Feels a bit better now but still isn't the same feel as before.
        >I can only imagine how your car feels with the 2008.  Anyway, long 
story
        >short, I achieve aproximately the same speed at the end of the 
straights
        >and the car has the same top speed as before, but the car is not as fun
        >to drive around.  Been thinking about doing a 1.8l with the 2.0l 
pistons
        >to end up with a slightly more powerful engine that dosen't have all 
the
        >problems that come with stroking a motor.  Another thing that might 
help
        >all this is putting Motronic in.  I don't think CIS-E is up to fueling
        >the bigger motor with lots of mods...
        >Clayton
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 23:26:41 -0400
        >From: "Denis P. Goldman" <[email protected]>
        >Subject: Driving impressions of Autotech Cam set... (long long long)
        >
        >Ok, now that I have a few days to play around with the new set, I have 
=
        >mixed emotions. =20
        >
        >Back in the day, my old 1.8 used to be a fast revving fun motor.  =
        >Lightened flywheel, euro intake, tt black box, made this motor a lot of
        >=
        >fun, but no power down low.   Then I went to a high compression 2008cc 
=
        >motor.  Wow.  The low end power of this thing was absolutely sick.  =
        >Quite a quick car.  That's how the motor was until this weekend....
        >
        >Now with the new cams in, the motor has turned into a higher revving, =
        >power-up-top engine.  This isn't a bad thing, as plenty of low end =
        >torque is still there.  But it just doesnt snap your head into the seat
        >=
        >at 3000rpm anymore.  Instead, starting at about 2500 on to about 6500, 
=
        >the power is very steady, and just builds and build and builds.  My =
        >friend said the motor feels somewhat like a VTEC now.  Now, I am =
        >assuming this is due to the fact that the new camset has a much wilder 
=
        >exhaust cam, with higher lift, etc.  Idle hasn't changed at all by the 
=
        >way.  Sounds very much like stock, and is very steady (not like a 268 
on
        >=
        >an 8v 2.0l).  Anyway, the thought has even crossed my mind to put the =
        >old euro intake back in along with my stock exhaust cam.
        >
        >Then there comes the whole idea of cam timing....  I know for sure now 
=
        >(100% sure) that my cams and my crank are in complete sync with each =
        >other.  I avoided that whole part of 'tightening the timing belt and =
        >throwing off your timing' problem.  I was thinking I could mess with my
        >=
        >cam gear some to shift the power band down a bit (being as I would like
        >=
        >the motor to peak at 6000rpm, not 6500rpm).  But I don't even want to =
        >mess with the perfect cam-to-crank timing.  Ignition timing is pretty =
        >good with little or no ping, with the compression it still has to be =
        >somewhat retarded from stock.  Maybe a degree or two.  And my fuel =
        >mixture should still be around 2.5-3ma.  I haven't checked since last =
        >summer, but it shouldn't have changed (plus I always have the black =
        >smoke cloud behind me when I am at wide open throttle).
        >
        >Lastly, the car doesn't run so great when cold.  I mean, worse that it 
=
        >used to when cold.  Could this be a thermotime sensor or a coolant =
        >sensor problem?  Neither have ever been replaced in over 5 1/2 years, =
        >but I always thought they just went bad, with no intermediate stage.  I
        >=
        >have to run over the tests in the bentley when I get a chance...
        >
        >Thanks for listening to my rambles.  If anyone has any ideas on where 
my
        >=
        >low end grunt may have gone, please feel free to let me know.  (and =
        >don't tell me its because its a wilder cam set and thats what happens -
        >=
        >I know this)  =3D)
        >
        >BTW, anyone have shrick 260's with a 2L on the list?  How is your power
        >=
        >down low compared to stock?  Being that the Autotech cam set and 260's 
=
        >are somewhat comparable...
        >
        >Thanks,
        >Denis G.
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