Is you problem urgent because its siezed up and your belts keep snapping? If so, you could just electrically disconnect it. I had that problem a ways back. The secondary pulley on there should spin even if the one that spins the A/C compressor doesn't. Or I think you could just turn off the A/C and not use the defrost...then you'd be fine too.
If that ain't your problem and its really gotta come out, check out below. Its a discussion from VW Vortex 16V room on the topic when I asked the same question. Towards the bottom of the list of replies someone says that if you remove the A/C you can just grab an A2 8V alternator pulley, swap it for the one you have, and use a Gates 7445belt. I'm actually planning on tring this...A/C is out...I just have to get to the yard to find an 8V alternator pulley. ANYBODY on the list have a parts 8V laying around with the alternator still in it? I'll take the pulley. - Adam Here's the discussion from VW Vortex: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------- Punctured Sphere VWvortex Member Posts: 7 From:Wisconsin, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 04-30-2001 04:24 PM ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- I'd like to remove all air conditioning components from my '87 16V GTI. The coolant is all gone, compressor is seized, I live in Wisconsin so I only need it for defrosting, and its just a bunch of cabbage to work around in my engine compartment. Anyone know where to find a replacement bracket with pulleys to mount in there in place of the compressor? Can anyone provider any guidance on this whatsoever? Thanks in advance, adam IP: Logged 16vracer VWvortex Member Posts: 3022 From:bremerton wa Registered: Jul 1999 posted 04-30-2001 05:06 PM ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- I can get you the kit for $180. ------------------ DUBSQUAD-Minister of Evil16V '00 Golf GLS 1.8T Silver TT vent,eyelids,dropped on black steelies '83 GTI"Evil 16V" -2.0L 16v 153hp@the wheels Ported/polished head,50mm intake,Shrick 276/260 cams,Sparco Seats,Eurosport, customized AutoPower rollbar etc IP: Logged JeBlueEyes VWvortex Member Posts: 466 From:Hamburg NJ Registered: Oct 2000 posted 04-30-2001 05:46 PM ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Fred,...thats just the bracket and pully right? You would still need the block off plates for the firwall, the non-ac radiator hose, the new fan box in the dash and the dash lever asembly/trim plate to do it right... ------------------ ~ Josh '90 GLI 2.0 16v~Red Wolfsburg edition, big bumpers '90 GLI 2.0 16v~Black Haulass Edition, small bumpers [email protected] IP: Logged Punctured Sphere VWvortex Member Posts: 7 From:Wisconsin, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 04-30-2001 06:24 PM ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- For 180 clams what's in the kit? Who makes it? Is this the price of a new set-up or is it a used one you have access to? What else will need to be done? The price seems to approach that of a new remanufac. compressor even. IP: Logged RavenGTi VWvortex Member Posts: 165 From:gaithersburg, MD, US Registered: Dec 2000 posted 04-30-2001 08:05 PM ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- i was able to remove the compressor/lines/condensor from the car without any additional parts. the lines and condensor just come out. you can mount the alternator where the ac compressor is mounted. if you take a good look at your alternator you can see how it will fit. if you try this you will have questions, so ask. ------------------ I have 16 holes in my head. IP: Logged 9A16V VWvortex Member Posts: 181 From:Westlake Village, CA USA Registered: Sep 2000 posted 04-30-2001 11:52 PM ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Here is one of two simple ways to remove the A/C. This is the way my friend and I did it in our cars: Rip out the compressor, the A/C hoses, and all the other A/C components that are under the hood. Get an alternator pulley from an A2 8V car. I got one for 5 bucks from a junkyard. Swap the pulleys. Get a gates 7445 belt or the equivalent. Leave the alternator in its original location. The belts will line up perfect. You're done. Total cost: 12 bucks. Total time: 1.5 hours. ------------------ '91 GTI 16V w/European Motorworks ported 1.8 16V head, euro intake cam, Garrett chip, 50mm intake, Borla exhaust, 3.90 ring and pinion, .80 5th gear, and 16 in. ABT wheels. 140hp@ the wheels www.iders.com/alexweb [This message has been edited by 9A16V (edited 05-01-2001).] IP: Logged vdubrabbit VWvortex Member Posts: 360 From:New Gloucester ME Registered: Feb 2001 posted 05-01-2001 11:15 AM ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- This is what a v-dub freak from the GTI enthusiasts had to say about the a/c removal process. I've heard different things, some people say you need to go through all of this. Others say all you need is one pulley and bracket from a A2 with power steering and without a/c. I hope someone can clear this up... Step 1: Go to the junkyard. Find a car with the same engine as yours less A/C (ie. if you have power steering, find a A/C-free power steering setup.) You will need the following parts - upper alternator bracket (and that metal with the hole, if there is one), Lower alternator bracket, alternator pulley, water pump pulley, and crank pulley. Step 2: Pull previously mentioned parts out of your car, along with the A/C compressor and (if you're never going to use A/C again) any A/C hoses that get in your way. On the Scirocco I also pulled out the condenser and anything else I could find and hacked the pipes off right up next to the firewall. Make sure you have the right parts before you hack anything! Step 3: Install the parts you salvaged in step 1. The only side effect I've noticed is that your idle could be a little high when the engine thinks it has to compensate for A/C (when the ventillation system is on an A/C setting.) If you buy want to buy the RPI kit, you'll get the following parts - upper alternator bracket (and that metal with the hole, if there is one), Lower alternator bracket, alternator pulley, water pump pulley. And probably a snazzy looking sticker. IP: Logged 9A16V VWvortex Member Posts: 181 From:Westlake Village, CA USA Registered: Sep 2000 posted 05-01-2001 02:14 PM ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- I'll say it again: Easiest, fastest way to do it: Remove ALL the underhood A/C components. Leave the alternator in its original location. Get an A2 8V alternator pulley and swap it on. Get a gates 7445 belt. You're done. IP: Logged rocco2nr VWvortex Member Posts: 361 From:Central Coast CA Registered: Aug 2000 posted 05-01-2001 03:18 PM ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- I'm doing it alex's way IP: Logged RavenGTi VWvortex Member Posts: 165 From:gaithersburg, MD, US Registered: Dec 2000 posted 05-01-2001 10:55 PM ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- obviously there are several ways of doing it (all of the ways posted seem to be working), good luck on which ever you choose. ------------------ I have 16 holes in my head. IP: Logged OWGTI VWvortex Member Posts: 1530 From:Wisconsin, USA Registered: May 2000 posted 05-02-2001 09:50 AM ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- The easiest way to do it is to buy a car that never had A/C. Thats what I did. 1988 GTI 16V from florida with no A/C. Probably a pretty rare car. ------------------ "Do we really need to waste money and resources killing the retarded when sending them into a hedge maze would be just as effective?" --The Onion www.theonion.com IP: Logged 89GLI16V VWvortex Member Posts: 725 From:Champaign,IL Registered: Sep 1999 posted 05-08-2001 09:17 AM ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Here's yet another way. ------------------ '89 Jetta GLI 16V Updated 5/4! '01 GTI 1.8T Reflex Silver (Oh WoW!) "Who pissed in your Cheerios?!" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Curtis" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Cc: "A2_16v (E-mail)" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 6:18 AM Subject: AC Removal - URGENT > I am away from home and need to get the AC compressor out of my car. > Luckily I saved Mark's pictures on my hardrive > (http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/radelow?d&.intl=us&.flabel=fld5&.src=ph). > Can anyone tell me what size belt I need to get, or do I just use the AC > belt? > And if I remember right, the alternator mounts where the AC compressor went. > Do I need to shim the pulley? > What length turnbuckle did you buy? > > > Thanks > > Doug > '89 GTI (stuck in the boondocks untill I get this fixed) > _____________ > List Sponsor: http://www.netsville.com > To remove yourself from this list, send mail to [email protected] with 'unsubscribe a2_16v' in the body of your message > See us on the web at http://www.a2-16v.com > Visit the 16V Homepage at http://www.gti16v.org _____________ List Sponsor: http://www.netsville.com To remove yourself from this list, send mail to [email protected] with 'unsubscribe a2_16v' in the body of your message See us on the web at http://www.a2-16v.com Visit the 16V Homepage at http://www.gti16v.org
