no I buy the 100 book so I can figure out the 15 dollar sensor. 
thus saving 85 dollars, my pride, and future repair costs.

youre still a cheapskate.



-----Original Message-----
From: Iñaki Berroeta [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 3:58 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: bentley mirror; serial#?


Designing a camgear is intellectual property, changing a timming belt is 
not. If they tell you haw to fix a car it has nothing to do with 
building/designing/constructing it. Or do you assume that an Audi technician

could design an Audi-like car in his garage just because he knows how to fix

it? I think not.

At this point if you get a check engine light in a car, you need to:
- Buy a manual for $100 because manufacturers don't publish error codes any 
more and their cars do not display them without a machine so..
- Buy a $$ diagnostic machine (soon to be only produced by the 
manufacturers).

or you take it to the dealer and you pay $200 to have a $15 temp sensor 
replaced. Are you happy with this? Then you are the prototipe consumer 
companies want.

Inaki

----Original Message Follows----
From: Boyd Drew <[email protected]>
To: 'Iñaki Berroeta' <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: bentley mirror; serial#?
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 15:39:41 -0400

companies have no obligations to tell you how they products work or how to
fix them.  If that were the case technologies would be getting ripped off at
a far faster rate than they are now.

I still think it makes you a lamer. spend the hundred bucks cheapskate!  :(
(not you specifically but...)


-----Original Message-----
From: Iñaki Berroeta [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 3:24 PM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: bentley mirror; serial#?


I agree, copying intellectual property is wrong (that's why I buy manuals
from ebay rather than fotocopying them). The problem with copyright laws is
that sometimes they protect companies to rip off consumers at will. You want

to fix your car? Ok, get a summary of what we already have to produce for
our technicians and give me $100. Soon you'll have to pay $1500 for a
machine that resets your service light and is also protected by copyright
laws...I am still waiting for a law that makes manufacturers provide a copy
of repair procedures with each car, problem solved.

Inaki

----Original Message Follows----
From: Tom Coradeschi <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: bentley mirror; serial#?
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 12:01:01 -0400

Wow, I'm really honored to be hanging out with a bunch of guys who
will drop thousands of bucks on parts for their cars, but are too
miserly to pay for a freakin' service manual. Respect the copyright
laws, willya?

               tom coradeschi <+> [email protected]
        Skylands (NJ) BMW Riders <+> <http://skylands.ibmwr.org/>
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