Ok last question and then i will leave you all alone ;-)

Is there a quick way to tell (without taking much apart) if the car has
front inserts, or if it requires the whole strut assembly.
The car in question is actaully a 1990 8v GTI

-Denis
----- Original Message -----
From: "DocWyte" <[email protected]>
To: "Adam Frank" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: [A2-16v] Suspension questions


> It's simple physics.  The lower the car goes, the more
> the roll center increases.  Once the control arms go
> past parallel to the ground the roll center increases
> far more than the center of gravity drops.
>
> I'd wager my Shine equipped car, that's at least 1.5"
> higher than yours would go around the corner far
> faster...
>
> -josh
>
>
> --- Adam Frank <[email protected]> wrote:
> > if you slam the car right it handles great.
> > ive got a '91 gli thats lowered to the point where
> > the tops of the tires are
> > just slightly hidden under the wheel well using
> > eibach springs. Ive got
> > front and rear neuspeed sway bars and i can take a
> > 20mph turn at 65 and the
> > tires dont even squeak. id say thats pretty good
> > handing. whats wrong with
> > that setup?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Matthew Yip" <[email protected]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 4:22 AM
> > Subject: Re: [A2-16v] Suspension questions
> >
> >
> > > Too low on an A2 really changes the roll center of
> > the vehicle and
> > > makes it handle like crap - in other words, all
> > those "slammed" cars
> > > that are built for "racing" are truly poseur cars.
> >  I don't remember
> > > how many inches I lowered my car but I stopped
> > when the front control
> > > arms were parallel to the pavement.  Anymore and
> > you'll get bump
> > > steer in places where you thought the road was
> > flat.
> > >
> > > I'd go with a coilover setup such as Ground
> > Control or Carrera (or a
> > > variety of others) before I ordered some generic
> > lowering springs.
> > > Most lowering springs are progressive in order to
> > preserve ride
> > > quality.  Race springs tend to be linear although
> > they're still
> > > fairly soft and they don't offer the changeability
> > of coil overs.
> > >
> > > Bilstein Sport and HD - valved the same (from what
> > I know) but the
> > > Sport is designed to work with lowered supsensions
> > while the HD is
> > > not.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Denis Palmans <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > Just a few more suspension questions. first off,
> > how low are most
> > > > of your
> > > > cars? I found a good deal on a set of springs,
> > but it lowers the
> > > > car from
> > > > 2-2.5 inches. That seems a bit extreme for me,
> > any opinions on
> > > > these?
> > > >
> > > > second, does anyone know the spring rates for
> > the H&R 'race'
> > > > springs that
> > > > parts4vws.com sells?
> > > >
> > > > also what is the difference between the bilstein
> > HD's and the
> > > > bilstien
> > > > sports? i'm assuming one is stiffer than the
> > other?
> > > >
> > > > finaly, on the parts4vws website they list 2
> > different bilstein
> > > > sport shock
> > > > sets, one for pre '90 cars, and one for 90-92
> > cars. It says the
> > > > 90-92 ones
> > > > include a full front strut. Is this nessecary?
> > cant i just get new
> > > > front
> > > > shock inserts instead of the whole strut itself?
> > > >
> > > > any help on these questions would be really
> > great.
> > >
> > >
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