Hi Felix,

just in case it is not yet obvious:
Some ways in your test data have  highway=path but no service=driveway.
Your rules don't add a road for it, so you probably don't get what you expect 
from the patch.

Gerd
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Von: Gerd Petermann
Gesendet: Sonntag, 17. September 2017 19:39:02
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connected on both sides or on one side only

Hi Felix,

I see the same result for b) and c) despite that one uses 0x01 and the other 
0x13.

Gerd
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Von: mkgmap-dev <[email protected]> im Auftrag von Felix 
Hartmann <[email protected]>
Gesendet: Sonntag, 17. September 2017 18:40:14
An: Development list for mkgmap
Betreff: Re: [mkgmap-dev] mkgmap:set_unconnected_type differentiate between 
connected on both sides or on one side only

only 24% of service=driveway have access tagging (mostly access=private) - 
however I guess 99% of those that are semi-connected and 99.99% that are 
unconnected are really not needed in a general map (no matter if they are 
private or not) - however you just cannot drop all service=driveways without 
access tags except for an automotive map as that often leads to missing 
important connectors and thereby big detours.


also it could be worth a try if long distance autorouting worked better if a 
general rule in the finalize section or further in front like
highway=* & mkgmap:semi_connected=yes {road_class='-2' road_speed='-2'}
(or try with '-1') could improve routing results. But maybe they are penalized 
by the garmin algorithm already enough anyhow. Now that rule really won't work 
with the current way it works - and I don't even know it will help. It's just 
something,that i would try out if it were possible.

On 17 September 2017 at 18:26, Felix Hartmann 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
b) did not work when I tried it. I have a test file here (very simple):
https://openmtbmap.org/wp-content/images/debug/driveways.osm


oh yeah the idea why semi_connected is needed camp up because many (mainly 
highway=service & service=driveway  and no other tags )in France and 
Switzerland are actually needed to get from roads for cars onto pathes/tracks. 
Often through a supermarket parking or similar while highway=service & 
service=driveway (likewise with no other tag) but mostly connected only on one 
side to public roads - are used to map ways to access a private house door or 
garden - they really clutter up the map hence I want to remove them. And yes - 
sadly far too little driveways add a foot=yes or foot=designated, or 
access=yes/access=designated while also far too many really private ways lack a 
access=private. Some people in OSM understand that service=driveway means it 
public without other tags, while others understand that it's private.

On 17 September 2017 at 18:14, Felix Hartmann 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I've seen a couple - but yes - according to taginfo it's really little,
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/service=driveway
(most are highway=service, then residential and others are really really 
little).


do you think you can change the behavior that b) will also work? If not I'm 
just going to rewrite my rules for highway=service - and drop the idea to get 
rid of track,residential, footway and path with service=driveway tag (and hope 
this does not change in future).
All other things that are specified in {} brackets also work like b) - that's 
why I thought it should work that way too.


Another possibility would be if it could be added to the finalize section 
instead. So have in finalize section
( highway=service | highway=track | highway=path | highway=footway | 
highway=residential ) & service=driveway  {set 
mkgmap:set_semi_connected_type=none; set mkgmap:set_unconnected_type=none}
which would then overrule rules given higher up.
(I did not try if this will work already - but I guess not).

On 17 September 2017 at 17:33, nwillink 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Gerd

In the UK , frequently public footpaths are linked to someone's driveway - I
have to say it's often quite 'daunting' to walk up someone's drive in order
to continue along a public footpath.

r

Nick



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